What do you suggest we do with the unwanted children who get born into this world? Who should take care of children whose parents cannot or don't want to take care of them? Will you love them, protect them and take care of them AFTER they are born like you're doing BEFORE they're born? Or will they just be forgotten and uncared for like the millions of children who are already out there suffering without anyone to care for them?
It's easy to protect an unborn child. It doesn't have a hungry mouth to feed, doesn't need clothes and already has a shelter for the time being. But what about when they come out into the real world and need more?
Are YOU going to take care of some of those children? Or is it just easier to say a lot of big words and protest on the internet and then close your eyes to what happens to those children afterwards?
What solutions do you have to offer for those children AFTER they're born?
2008-05-12T13:35:55Z
I agree that it's best to avoid unwanted pregnancy in the first place, but sadly things are not always that simple. There are rapes, life-threatening pregnancies and severe medical conditions than need to be taken into the equation too.
2008-05-12T13:40:05Z
I don't think that people who are a burden to society should be exterminated! Neither do I think that unwanted children are a burden on society. What I'm saying is that it's not enough to fight for those children's right to be born, there are at least 18 more years of their lives that need to be cared about too. Most pro-lifers give me the impression they can stop caring when the child is born.
2008-05-13T15:11:28Z
Wow Jenny Kim, did you even bother to read my quesiton before you started your judgemental, accusational rant? Where did I state my stance on the subject? Where did I say that I support abortions? Believe it or not, I know better than you what I care about and what I don't, so don't you dare put words in my mouth.
Anonymous2008-05-12T14:00:07Z
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I just want to point out that no where in here did you say they should NOT be willing to support these children after birth, but asked if they would. They then all painted you out to be a Nazi in favor of killing the weak, elderly and poor. But, in fact is that not there own answer to whether or not they plan to help raise the children that they want to badly to be born? Also, I am a former foster mom. You do not need to be rich to adopt or foster. If that were true, I could not have done it. The truth is people mostly want to adopt perfectly healthy (mentally, physically and emotionally), white children under the age of six. By those preferences, my own child would be unadoptable today. The mere act of being orphaned would scar her enough to cause attachment disorder; she has ADD and is 11 years old. If she were Latina or black on top of that and had siblings her odds of ever finding a home would be nil. Some of these teens are gay, as it is a natural way to be. How do you think the Christian foster and adoptive parents take that? Gays are also unadoptable. In fact, things are so dire that if you are willing to take on an “unadoptable” child, the state will pay you to do so. Many of the kids these wonderful Christian adopt internationally and in the states end up returned to the system. The kids are hard to handle and take more than the average family has in the way of patience. Most pro-lifers never foster or adopt. If they did, there would not be so many kids in need of homes today. The foster care system is in desperate need of help. Many pro-lifers are also against socialized medicine and aid to the poor. They remain willfully ignorant of how many children and families their president has made homeless and fatherless. They also refuse to educate themselves on the lives saved by contraception and abortion. (Now they are confused...) When a mother has unplanned children, she tends to stay poor and uneducated. The father is rarely involved. She and her children have a higher mortality rate than those of mother's with means to support themselves and their children. I am not saying it is bad to chose to have the unplanned child, I did so myself. I regret nothing, but I am not blind to what my choice entailed. I am saying every step of reproduction is mine to choose. Condoms break and the pill only works if you take it correctly and don't take anti-biotics, St. John's Wort etc. with it. Since you are the same folks who won't teach anything other than abstinence, I assume more and more girls will find those things out the hard way...and probably seek abortions.
That is not our problem... just because we disagree with murder, doesn't mean it is our responsibility to care for someone else's mistakes. Murder is not the solution.
The guilt should not be placed on us! That is what you're doing with this question. You are saying that because we disagree with murder, WE should be responsible for finding an alternative. NOT TRUE!
Would I accept a child into my life if I knew he/she was being mistreated or unwanted? Without a doubt! The problem really with the unwanted children scenario is the government and agencies that have those children stuck in the middle. If adoptive parents had more protection and better assistance, and face less costs... there would be many more adopted kids and less in foster homes. But because the government and agencies make it nearly impossible to adopt becuase of costs and hurdles along the way... the poor children are stuck in the middle.
There are far more couples willing, able, and ready to adopt an "unwanted" child (which, all by itself, certainly makes every child "wanted" at least by someone) than there are women who are willing to interrupt their lives by carrying a pregnancy to term, delivering the child, and giving it up for adoption. It takes a very selfless person to do that. And the demand far outstrips the supply.
Visit a crisis pregnancy center sometime if you want to gain some first-hand knowledge of pro-lifers who not only talk the talk, but walk the walk -- doing everything possible for women who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy, including long after they've given birth. That includes materially and substantially helping the women who do ultimately decide to keep their babies. You probably don't hear much about it because they aren't out there tooting their own horns. But if this is a real concern for you, and it appears that it is, you might want to speak to some of these people before you just repeat the pro-choice rhetoric about pro-lifers not caring about the children after they're born.
I understand what you are saying. Pro Life is much more than just opposing abortion. We must give life. I give life in a number of ways: I give considerably to scholarship funds, hospitals, and orphanages. I volunteer a lot ot time to troubled youth. I certainly do what a single, widowed father of two young daughters can do.
All that being said, I disagree with the proposition that it would be better if unwanted, uncared for, poor, homeless children had been aborted in the first place.
I propose that it is the attitude inherent in abortion that encourages the cheapness of life, and the abuse and neglect of children. .
If that's your impression of us, that we don't care about children after they're born, you haven't talked to enough of us. It's good that you put this sort of question out.
Those of us who are able to, adopt. I've got a few myself, but I'm sure you understand why not everyone is able to adopt.
ADD: Jenny Kim, you are right. I made the mistake of walking right into the setup without moving anything aside.
This is all part of that disqualification tactic selectively employed by the abortion people that says if you're not going to take care of our babies, you can have no say. Stand aside and let us choose to have abortions. If you're a man, you have can have no say in this issue. If you've professed religious vows of chastity, you have no say. And so on down the line. It's all part of the terms of debate they're trying to set for all to create a narrow, excessively restrictive set of qualifications for their opposition to speak. These gag rules of course don't apply to men, priests and nuns, homosexuals, etc., who speak out in FAVOR of abortions.
Good call, Jenny, and shame on me for sleeping at the wheel.