Is there generally pilot and airplane design awareness of jet fuel freezing issues? Or is it impossible?

Are pilots of commercial jet planes conscious of the risk of fuel freezing? Do they monitor the outside air temperature and/or fuel temperature gauges to ensure their fuel is not at risk of freezing? Or is the general belief that the freezing point of jet fuel is so low that it is basically impossible for it to freeze during normal operation? Do most pilots of jets even know the freezing point of jet fuel?

In passenger jet design, is fuel freezing a factor? Are fuel lines insulated? Heated? Are there systems to monitor fuel temperature and alert the crew if the fuel gets close to the freezing point? If not, is it because it is considered impossible for the fuel to get cold enough to freeze?

Thanks in advance for helpful, knowledgeable answers.

2008-05-29T19:07:41Z

Umm, every liquid will freeze if you get it cold enough. If you're saying the general belief is that an airplane will never get cold enough for its fuel to freeze, are you saying pilots think this way because the plane is designed not to let the fuel freeze? Or are you saying that airplane designers don't even have to worry about it because they are that sure the plane will never get cold enough to freeze the fuel?

Erase Program Read Only Memory2008-05-29T19:09:04Z

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Yup, not only pilots are aware but aircraft manufacturer (design) as well that is why in the engine there is a fuel/oil heat exchanger where the cold fuel passes and gets heated by the hot oil while oil gets cooler via heat transfer. This heated fuel then goes to the pump then to the fuel spray nozzles.
Fuel booster pumps - the one that ensures a positive fuel flow from the tank to the engine are submerged in the tanks for lubrication and cooling (of the pump) in the same way pre-heating or heat transfer to the tank ensuring fuel heating too.
Not sure on the value (Training manual only use as reference) but a -20 or -40 deg C on the fuel temperature gage , pilots have to switch on their fuel heater as part of their oper. procedure.

John K2008-05-29T20:23:35Z

There is a rumor that this may have been one of the possible reasons for the 777 crash in England after a polar route flight where the temperatures were very low. Read this excerpt from the most recent report:

"During the flight there was a region of particularly cold
air, with ambient temperatures as low as -76ºC, in the
area between the Urals and Eastern Scandinavia. The
Met Office described the temperature conditions during
the flight as ‘unusually low compared to the average,
but not exceptional’. The lowest total air temperature
recorded during the flight was ‑45ºC, and the minimum
recorded fuel temperature was -34ºC. The specified
fuel freezing temperature for Jet A-1 is not above
‑47ºC; analysis of fuel samples taken after the accident
showed the fuel onboard the aircraft complied with the
Jet A-1 specification and had a measured fuel freezing
temperature of -57ºC. The aircraft was operated within
its certified flight envelope throughout the flight."

The whole report can be found here: http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources/S3-2008%20G-YMMM.pdf

That should show you how seriously everyone takes it.

gwenneth2016-12-26T16:46:47Z

Jet Fuel Freezing Point

miiiikeee2008-05-30T02:18:55Z

most commercial aircraft have there wings sumped every week to remove water from there wings to prevent the water from freezing and causing problems. Then the fuel goes thru what they call a fuel oil cooler to heat the fuel up on the engine. The fuel is heated and the oil is cooled down. Some aircraft producers route there hydraulic lines into the fuel tank to cool the hydraulics down and heat the fuel up.The fuel lines are non insulated except in the passenger compartment where they double walled to serve the same purpose as a double wall oil tanker but in reverse if it leaks it woudn`t get in the passenger compartment. Most aircraft have some sort of gauge to tell the engine inlet fuel temp . When it comes to the 777 crash it can`t see that the fuel froze up due to the fact Boeing routes it`s hydraulic lines thru the fuel tank to cool hydraulics and heat the fuel. I believe the pilot was flying the aircraft and mad a mistake.

John B2008-05-29T20:25:07Z

Yes it can freeze. Or at least gels up to the point where its unusable. It's the water in the fuel that's the problem though and most jet aircraft have fuel heaters to take care of that. Yes we have fuel tank temp. gages and such to monitor it. And no, I'll bet most of us don't know the freezing point of jet fuel anymore than we know the melting point of a turbine blade. Neither a melting turbine blade or freezing jet fuel has ever been much of a problem in aviation. If you're worried I can't help you. But I'm not and somehow I've survived four decades making safe use of kerosene.

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