Where can I buy a thermometer that has gradients of 1/100th degree...?
After being attacked by one of the AGW elitist clique here for not being able to read a thermometer, therefore not realising that the Earth is warming, I need to buy said thermometer so that I do not make a fool of myself by not realising that it not actually 23.5degrees today, but 23.51 degrees.
2010-07-12T04:30:39Z
@ Paul's Alias 2... hardly...I don't roam in packs attacking anyone with an alternatie view.
2010-07-12T05:54:48Z
Hi booM Good point. There must be some areas of the world where temperatures have decreased. How many readings for instance do we take from Antarctica.It represents a not inconsiderable percentage of the Earth's surface.
2010-07-12T05:58:41Z
Thanks beren... I'm sure i could get one off ebay..i get lots of things from there. My question was more toungue in cheek. Would i benefit fro a thermometer that has readings in 1/100th of degrees. Seems one of the AGW crowd does. He thinks I need one to prove the Earth is warming. No doubt I need a thermometer, because my body won't tell me that it is 1/100th of a degree warmer than I thought it was.
2010-07-12T13:21:05Z
hi pegminer... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AhlSJemc0b5fSKuyCwr4E2bsy6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100710120556AAlxyik&show=7#profile-info-fqLo4HvKaa.. you will have to scroll down to see the bit where the thermometer insult is thrown in. I am not a climate change denier...I question everything and do not blindly believe everything told me... and I like a good old fashioned argument
Anonymous2010-07-12T11:00:01Z
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How can you call them elitists? They are far from elitists. They just think they are smarter and better than everyone else. They think their stance on one issue makes them part of a special group that entitles them to demean and insult all others who disagree. But that doesn't make them elitists does it?
I think you might have more luck finding one if you looked for one with GRADUATIONS of a 1/100th degree, instead of GRADIENTS. Even then it would have to be a pretty specialized thermometer only useful for a very small range--it might be possible to read hundredths of a degree on a fever thermometer but I think that would be pushing it. A digital thermometer is your best bet.
However, if you're trying to find out whether or not the Earth is warming, then you need not one thermometer but thousands, then you could average them and give the value to the nearest hundredth of a degree.
I seriously doubt that anyone in the "AGW elitist clique" attacked you for not being able to read a thermometer, since we in the elitist clique know that you'll never know if the Earth is warming from measurements taken with any single thermometer. If I'm incorrect about this then could you please give me the link where someone told you that needed a thermometer? Otherwise I'm just going to assume that it's just another denier lie.
EDIT: Thanks for the link, and I withdraw my assumption that it's just another denier lie. You do have a link to a glib, offhand remark to base this pointless question on.
jim z, did I say this in your dream or something "Interestingly he admits that any warming from CO2 would be practically non-existent."? I'm pretty sure I never said it in real life.
the fact is out and the "technological information" has been uncovered for the junk technological information that that is. The warming the earth is going by way of suited now has no longer something to do with carbon dioxide. co2 isn't a greenhouse gasoline. The solar is to blame for each factor of climate substitute, that's the giver of life, as particular youtube video clips of course tutor. The paradigm is transferring and that is getting greater good and greater good for the comunist, liberal schedule of AGW, to regulate us. Any smart guy or woman with a 4th grade preparation can see it for the huge hoax that that is. the international is honestly cooling yet they do no longer desire every physique to understand approximately it. The solar close off 3 years in the past and that is now no longer producing photograph voltaic irradiance. the international is cooling without postpone and scientists are desperatly attempting to make data to maintain us fooled, and save us under administration.
Pegminer is really a literalist. Interestingly he admits that any warming from CO2 would be practically non-existent.
I think my wife could use one of those thermometers. I personally have a wide comfort range but her comfort range lies within a degree or two. I can tolerate 87 degrees but get really hot at 87.02.
That might come in handy outside your bedroom window, but the question is how would that contribute to your (or my, if I were to buy one and put it outside my bedroom window) understanding of climate change?
I understand that you might be feeling a tad sensitive about getting 'attacked' for an 'alternative view' but there is a lot of attack politics on both sides here so it's not exactly an exclusive clique of elistists, as you describe it.
But you bring up an interesting point with this question along with the next one you asked about global average temperatures flattening or starting to decline. One of the things that interests me the most as I look at the temperature records we have available is not the relatively small changes in global temperature year to year long term, but what is happening regionally. For example, a .5 increase globally might not seem like much-and many people here have said so-but then why is a .1 decline over a period of five or ten years significant? However, when we look at regional temperature decreases and then consider the overall increase in global average temperatures (long term vs. a few years) what regions of the planet are warming up significantly enough to offset the areas that are getting colder? What is happening at the poles, and what does that portend in the future if these trends continue? My point of view is the science is quite sound on the matter, it is the outcome where some uncertainty still remains.
I'll blab on about one other thing for a moment re 'elitist cliques of all stripes-there was a question asked that has now been deleted mocking a university offering a degree in 'Climatology,' as if there would be something wrong with that. Seems to me that the more science can focus on educating people about climate and research, the more progress we can make in actually determining what is going on. I would think such a pursuit in higher education would be cheered by everyone; maybe that failed logic in the question occurred to the questioner and that is why it was deleted. I know I would have been embarrassed by making such a point via a question here once I realized the logical flaw in it, not to mention the very low level of understanding it indicated. I think it is particularly important to focus on the issues and try to ask and answer questions at the level the most prolific participants operate on here, a low level of discourse such as you see in the politics category doesnt work here in this one at all.
EDIT: Average global temperatures and regional weather/climate variations is one area or issue I would like to know more about. For one thing, if the margin of error is consistent from year to year, even if there is, say, a 3% margin of error, as long as the measurements are consistent the margin of error doesn't offset the trend toward warmer global averages, as some have claimed. However, as methods of collecting the data improve or are changed via relocating stations, etc. how does that affect the total vs. other years, and how is the refined data extrapolated to yield the most accurate results year to year over the long term? Of course, the second related issue is how important is a .5 degree (for example) overall increase if the poles have warmed by (again, for example) by 5 degrees and/or the midwest U.S. agricultural belt has warmed by, say 3 degrees and rainfall patterns are shifting away from some of the nation's breadbasket due to warming...etc. etc. etc.
I think one of the aspects of this particular matter is that it is extremely complex and difficult to extrapolate for individuals not schooled in climate, so it is easy to get alarmed or refuse to accept that anything unusual is going on when we have to rely on scientists to interpret the data rather than being able to make a factual judgement for ourselves. Of course, we also see the same difficulties in evaluating economics or politics, where we aren't privy to all the information or able to evaluate it as factually as we would like, so we stake out a position and hold on to it for dear life.
Heck, I'd love to be able to ask the right question(s) to learn more about global/regional temperature variations, but I don't even know how to phrase it/them to get the links and info that I'd like to know more about. I think there are about 30 different questions that could be asked. Haha, I have to learn more just to learn what questions I need to ask to learn more.