If a poster advocates a disgusting libel, would that change the way you view their answers/questions?

2012-10-24T21:51:25Z

Examine some of the answers here http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;%E2%80%A6
Now here's the TRUTH http://www.scribd.com/doc/76695373/Excer%E2%80%A6

2012-10-24T21:53:18Z

sorry the link is http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aj.J16eR2BS8x6yZTehyMVfty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20121023120527AAcn6Ej
- it was cut off when I pasted it.

2012-10-24T22:11:14Z

BTW I and an old student of mine who lives in the USA have posted this question in a variety of forms- but for some reason, even though you could view is by typing in the link- it didn't show up in the
"Israel->open" list. Is anybody else having these problems?
Apologies to shay- thank for your answer, but for some reason only those who are on my contacts list will see it- good answer too.

2012-10-24T22:20:50Z

@shay thanks for answering again, and I'll pose the same question that I posted earlier- 10 seconds with a search engine finds the claims are baseless- not claiming the INDIVIDUAL acts did not happen or to lessen their horror, but to claim Muslims responsible for ALL of them when 75% are Norwegian or European descent is just disgusting slander- more appropriate in the mouths of people like Goebbels. When you read successive posting by these people, would you tend to doubt future claims?

2012-10-24T22:57:45Z

@esther- the link in the yours and the posters is purposefully misleading, the actual reports said "This means that every single rape assault in the last five years, where the rapist could be identified, was a man of foreign origin" How were they "identified" "What's he look like?" He's an African- VOILA identified. "What's he look like?" "I dunno kinda average (ie white average build- like the majority of Norwegian males) NOT identified. Or " From 2005-2010 a total of 86 sexual assaults involving rape were reported, in 83 cases the man was described as having “non-western appearances” Strange the number of rape cases in 2008 ALONE was 994!! According to YOUR facts in one YEAR there were more then TEN TIMES more rapes in Norway then in TEN years in Norway by Muslim men. Please stop. Anybody with a internet link can check these facts.

2012-10-24T23:40:10Z

@merc might wanna check that math again, or at least the wording. The claim for rapes on your percentages is based on ETHNICITY. The claim for the poster was "non-Western immigrants." How many Christian blacks does that include who have lived there for generations?" You're right we don't know. But considering the claim was for ALL RAPES- that is moot and doesn't alter a thing I said. Strange you have no problem holding their religion as a possible reason and not their race- the majority of rapes done by a minority are black and out of proportion to the others, as you astutely observed. If you're going strictly by one dimensional outlook by numbers alone- why not make THAT conclusion?

2012-10-25T06:49:59Z

@merc- but you HAVEN'T proved that immigrants are more likely to commit rapes- only people of a certain ethnicity are. Unless you claim that immigrant status is inherited down the generations. But nice try- while trying to play away from the fact that it is NOT TRUE- which you refuse to outright state (but at the same time never outright claim) the Muslims are responsible for all rapes- and in fact not even close- you still try to make it look like I'm wrong.
@esther- what part of "there were 994 rapes in 2008" alone do you not understand? Actually Merc while not calling you a liar, shows you are. You claim ALL rapes were Muslim- he shows that's not true- a disproportionate were done by black people yes- but not all- not even close.
While I don't speak for shay, I believe he posted a links to obvious hate sites to prove a point.

2012-10-25T17:28:55Z

@merc-"Look, somebody here is dense, and it's not me...Your plan was to give data to show that Muslim immigrants are not more likely to commit rape." I was NOT trying to prove whether ir not Muslims are MORE likely to rape- I was showing that not ALL rapes- and not EVEN CLOSE are committed by Muslims. "We all know Muslims are not responsible for "all rapes". That's strange did you READ esther's answer on the link provided? "So what are the "Middle East" and "Africa"- they're "backgrounds"

2012-10-25T17:37:47Z

@merc "Your plan was to give data to show that Muslim immigrants are not more likely to commit rape. You failed." Strange because the link I provided said ALL rapes. How can I prove that Muslims are or are not responsible for rapes when religion is NOT a criteria in the study I supplied? my point was to simply prove that the assertion is a lie- and easily found out. So what should we think of people that knowingly post what is a libel? Should we distrust everything they say? Yet you can't argue against that so throw in obfuscation. You didn't say "black people" you said "Africans". Africa is NOT "mostly Arab/Muslim". AND once again you are confusing BACKGROUND with IMMIGRANT,. But of course you wouldn't acknowledge that. If you look at perp's citizenship, then Africans and ME's make up 19.7%.

2012-10-25T17:54:22Z

@lawyer, so the report used was a fraud? the police report out of context. EASILY PROVED by the fact that there were more then TEN TIMES that many rapes in the ten year period used by the link IN ONE YEAR. Is this site lying? http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes In fact in the very same report your youtube video uses it states "Furthermore there is thorough quantitative research to confirm that statistical differences in criminal behavior between ethnic groups disappear when the figures are controlled for the socio-economic circumstances in which the individuals concerned have grown up in Norway."

Petit2012-10-25T02:09:15Z

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Another ridiculous Israeli anti-Muslim propaganda. Here is what the police report actually said:
http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/debunked-zionist-and-islamophobic-libel-rape-epidemic-muslims-norway
Imagine if someone said all organ traffic preparators are Jewish. Esther type would be the first to scream antisemitsm and accuse people of aiming to wipe out all the Jews and push them into the sea. But they don't have any problem saying something disgusting and hateful against others. Just like their previous hatefull lies that Palestinians hate their own children, Hamas mass child wedding, Muslims want to kill all infidels in the world but Israel is somehow preventing that...and many other.
Rape is a universal thing and it has nothing to do with race, religion or appearance. Only pro-Nazi and pro-apartheid people would say otherwise.

Those people lost credibility long ago my friend by spreading false claims over and over again no matter how many times you prove them wrong.

curious12012-10-25T11:09:36Z

To be fair i cant believe that ALL rapes in these countries have been committed by muslims. Perhaps they are the ones that are reported the most or that the media picks up on because it probably isnt news when a white male rapes in one of these countries.

Having said that, the truth is that for the most part muslim men see western women as the lowest of the low and fair game, so muslim men committing rape is not so surprising. This is a very sad fact... sad for the women and i think very sad for men, that in this day and age their cultural beliefs will not allow them to be on equal par with any woman, western or muslim, and hence will never know true intimacy or partnership with a woman.... let alone the amazing concept of friendship. I am sure there are some exceptions, but i suspect those are ones whose parents are extremely liberal and do not strictly follow islam... allowing their children, male and female to explore cross gender friendships.

Saria2012-10-25T23:07:21Z

Those who argue that all rapes are done by Muslims disgust me. That's a slap in the face of thousands of Norwegian women who were violated by men who happened to not be Muslim. You're telling these victimized women that they weren't violated to further your political agendas. Think about how they feel about that and how the people who helped them through it feel. I hear all about muslim violence amongst women, it makes me angry, and I would imagine if anybody tried to defend them there would be no end to the criticism. I would be right there with them.
Yes, you've sunk to that level.

?2012-10-24T22:31:39Z

Your link is not proof of anything and does not say what you are suggesting it says. On the other hand, the poster you are attacking provided links which back up his/her answer.

This link is regarding rapes in Oslo, where all the rape perpetrators had a "non-Western appearance," which is known there to mean Muslim.
http://www.eutimes.net/2011/06/norwegian-tv-station-presents-latest-figures-on-2005-2010-assaults-in-oslo/

Here is a news report regarding the same issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPNO2BVT1NM&feature=player_embedded

You mentioned in your answer that they were Norwegian citizens. Even if that were true, that is very misleading. Someone with a non-Western appearance can still have Norwegian citizenship, even if they just arrived in Norway seven years ago. They would still be immigrants.

The fact that you are attempting to invalidate this poster when he/she has provided references is what is actually disgusting if you ask me.

EDIT: I honestly don't think you know how to read, or it's so late that you're getting punchy. Your attack on my links makes no sense whatsoever. This is an Oslo police report that was on the news and analyzed. In 83 out of 86 cases the perpetrator could be identified and had a non-Western appearance. There were only three cases in which he could not be identified, but in every single case where he could, he did not look Western. And as you said, those cases took place over a 5 year period-- in OSLO. And incidentally, Oslo is where the majority of the Muslim population lives in Norway. Despite the fact that they make up a very small percentage of the entire Norwegian population, they are dominating sexual assaults involving rape.

I am relieved that Merc has answered here and has proven that your link does not say what you think it says. You need to re-read it. Seriously. I read it and did not see anything in your favor.

And furthermore, why are you acting as if Shay is backing you up? He provided more links re-stating what the poster in question has written. I think you need to get your eyes checked, or go to bed and get some sleep. Re-read these links again in the morning! (That is if you really are in Canada.)

@Michardav: Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. It's pointless. I've said my piece, and I've got nothing to add.

Anonymous2012-10-25T08:30:02Z

Ok, let´s sum what the Asker wrote up.

Norwegian police report is not correct. The Norwegian policemen of course did not not understand who were those who committed all the rapes in their country - until michardav and his old student arrived and explained it to them.

Esther´s links are misleading.

Merc´s math is wrong and biased.

Shay posted links to obvious hate sites.

All the evil forces united against michardav and his old student but they in spite of the sites that do not work, links that do not open, hurricanes and storms bring to us the Golden Message of Truth.

Thank you michardav, all is clear.

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