Law & Grace, not law vs grace -- does that make sense?

It makes sense, but what about the Old Testament times when there was no Grace (in the sense of Christ)?

Those people couldn't follow His law perfectly, either. The Old Testament speaks of those who were considered righteous by God because they believed. Not necessarily because they did the right things all the time. Look at David - he broke every one of the 10 Commandments! Saving grace wasn't part of the equation then - at least not the way we understand it from the Gospels.

But since God still loved the righteous (believers), I suppose you could consider that Grace. It becomes a matter of semantics. It just makes me wonder why - if He intended to provide saving grace from His law - He couldn't have just explained the gospel of grace to those people?

Your second paragraph almost nullifies the question entirely. Yes, we need to keep the law. It shows that we love him. John 15:14 says "If you love Me, keep My commandments". This is essential for our salvation. But we cannot keep them by our own strength or power, so we need the grace of Jesus to cover us, but the Bible still calls us to be perfect in Christ. It says in Matthew 5:48 "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect." That is why we need to rely on Jesus to be perfect IN US. The law is like a mirror, it just shows us our sin so we can go to Jesus to take care of it. We don't throw away the mirror because it shows us we have dirt on our face. The Blood of Jesus covers our sin. God Bless.

Grace unto you, and peace,

from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Nay Nay to such Law Law. Get a clue Clueless!

Either make the tree Good "OR" Evil. Not Both.

For both is an oxyMORON with a 'MORON' ending.

Hebrews 5: Conclusion: "discern both good & evil",

means a void both good & evil, ya clueless moron.

Geeze, it's not BC, it has been AD for 2,000 yrs.

"Wisdom from above" is notably FIRSTLY PURE: Grace!

Only what's "firstly pure" is then also "peace-able".

He is our "peace" who hath ABOLISHED the law. Hell-o!

The law was given by Moses,

but grace came by Jesus Christ.

The lie was given by Moses,

but truth came by Jesus Christ.

He "taketh away" the first,

that he may "establish" the second.

Law(Lie): press DELETE to take away.

Grace(Truth): press SAVE to establish.

Only thing established by mix-tu-are is an oxyMORON;

and since grace is, law added, oxyMORON: Grace + Law.

It's always law vs grace, no matter how allegorized,

except in yer Clueless case it's law law vs His Grace.

The "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Laws are the 10 commandments that God handed down to Moses and said to obey them and my the Grace of obeying them you will be granted a place in heaven.

maximum folk don't realize this: in case you translate the earliest texts we've of the Bible be conscious for be conscious, you may want to no longer even examine it. there is alot extra distinction between languages than basically distinct words. Direct literal translation, be conscious through be conscious through be conscious hardly ever makes any experience that anybody might want to follow. The oldest texts we've of the hot testomony (in Greek) date from CENTURIES AFTER Christ even lived. sure, they were derived from originals - as far as all of us comprehend - from that days throughout and presently after Christ. we do no longer have those ORIGINALS. through the time of the earliest transcripts that we do have, there have been already various distinct interpretations/translations. Christian communities were already scuffling with about "pretend education." The definition of what became pretend relies upon on who you locate credible again then. in my view, i do not assert mainly that the Bible is genuine or pretend. evaluate although, realistically, its meaning is interpreted thousands of distinct suggestions. The previous adage many various church homes make: "We bypass strictly through the Bible" is particularly conceited. What that statement is truly declaring is that the interpreter is the in trouble-free words source who can likely be genuine, is genuinely infallible and, likely, for that count number, ought to rule the wold.

Amen.

we are encouraged to like Christ live a balanced life.

here is a message by an old time preacher that will help to clarify it a little.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Books,%20Tracts%20&...

Ya!

No. Thanks for the sermen anyways.