Faith: Where do you place it?

Good answers so far. Some clarifications: I don't personally believe the Theory of Evolution should be thrown out because it has holes in it. As I said above, it is the best scientific theory we have at the moment. I do like Doug's answer that the difference is that science is able to at some point cover up the missing pieces. I tend to agree but not in full. As a student of science and in studying scientific theory I have learned the areas that inherently cannot be defined by science. They are pieces of the physical world that exist outside of the human tool of science and therefore, cannot define them. The first two I don't think are rock solid, but the third I am convinced science inherently cannot research. These are not my own conclusions, but only a report of what the scientific theorists have concluded to be outside the realm of human science:

1) The human consciousness: Science is a human tool and therefore is limited by the perspective of human experience. While science is able to look at the human consciousness and infer data, it cannot find the answer as to how human consciousness developed. It can look at the biochemical pathways and anatomy and psychology and thus, discover how it works and generalize a theory of its beginning. However, since humans are the ultimate conductors of the experiment we cannot rise above our own consciousness to discover the root of our consciousness.

2) Beginning of life - While we can manipulate DNA and RNA and, indeed, even in a lab take raw lifeless material and create life out of it using the same environment believed to be found during life's beginning, we must admit that this is merely taking what is in nature and letting it do the work. Since human science does not exist outside the realm of life it can only describe life after the first moment of its inception. It can only recreate that inception, but cannot create that inception if you understand me correctly. Scientists don't struggle with the idea of defining everything in life after the first point of existence. Science theorists find it may well be impossible for science to define just what is the relationship of that inorganic material to the organic material and why it causes life.

3) The beginning of the universe - Science exists within the physical universe and therefore can explain anything within the physical universe. This is after the poin 0 seconds on the time scale of the universe. Unfortunately, at 0 seconds is when the first thing got moving. Science cannot tell us what happened before the universe began and how it got ready to begin, or even the first moment of its beginning. It can only describe what happens after everything began. And all it infers from the universe in a mission to discover the beginning will only show what happened just after 0 seconds on the time line. This is because all the info we are using to determine the beginning is from stuff that was only there and existed after the beginning.

So if you believe that the science community has trouble with these things, perhaps faith is involved in that which science cannot discover.

Here is some more info if you don't believe that scientists themselves believe what I just told you.

http://www.mediaresources.eku.edu/streaming/lectur...

all are good, but particularly listen to Dr. Nelson's talk. I assure you he is not religious. I know him personally.

And to the ignoramous that believes I just copied and pasted something from my priest or 'ID' (whatever that is) I didn't. This is info purely from my university studies. I attended a state school with no religious affiliations. I also want to correct your ignorance further, that a priest will tell you that evolution and creationism are both true. The holes in evolution that is believed to have no paint that will ultimately cover it up is filled in with accounts of creationism. You must come to grips that creationism isn't just what the fundamentalists are defining. Catholicism believes evolution has some proof and must be considered, however, it cannot prove the development of a soul.