Should ideas become the property of those who manifest them?

If expressed to the public, I think all ideas should become such as that no one has any rights over them; However, if ideas are kept to an individual, it is my personal opinion that the creator of the idea should get all of the "value profits" from it.

And what is the purpose of knowledge ?! The lack of its own existence.

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Some ideas that have been trademarked or patented become the property of the agent for a limited time.

That allows the inventor to gain a finincial reward, but not forever....at the end of the protection period the idea is in the public domain, usable by anyone.

That means, an inventor has a reason to make his idea public, ie profit, and society benifits by the knowlege gained, and idea when it becomes public.

Long rant fail. So are you rich? Planning on getting rich? How silly will you feel in a few years when you're working 9 to 5 just like the rest of us. Also, cutting and pasting is a bore and demonstrates you inablility to formulate your own thoughts and viewpoints.

Ideas on their own are generally not protectable, so you cannot stop someone thinking what you thinking.

Author has a copyright, which only means that they have a right not to be copied. That is the purpose of the law in these areas. Why would you want to copy someone idea anyway, we want to do our own original thing.

The copyright does not stop you reading their work only copying it. It is normally exact substantial copying of whole or part, you can't protect a general idea eg a movie about monsters etc, no one stops you making it.

In the UK intellectual property rights, some of them for example copyright are finite, others such as trademarks are indefinite.

only if they can prove that they are the first one and only one at that time to have that idea.

We allow authors to have copyrights because they are doing more than just having a thought, or an idea, they take it and invest energy and time and sometimes money in it and in return, they can earn money for it. So that is a way of protecting the resources they spent on it. If you have an idea and do nothing about it, no, you shouldn't be able to copyright it.

A couple times a day I have the idea that it would be wise of me to go use the bathroom, but then if that idea was copyrighted, would I be fined for having that thought, and then acting on that idea?

They aren't.

Your ideas are not something you can solely own. After all, if ideas were never shared in the marketplace, where would we be? Imagine if Bill Gates had never shared his ideas about the new BASIC programming language that he and Paul Allen developed…would Microsoft exist? How would that have impacted our world today? Let's take it back even further: what would life be like if Louis Pasteur had never shared his ideas about heat treatment, what we now call pasteurization? The sharing of ideas has brought us to where we are, good and bad.

Intellectual property is those ideas fixed in a form. That is, it is NOT the idea itself but rather how it's presented. It's also the laws set up to register, manage and govern those presentation of ideas.

So, yes, while you can own, for instance, the exclusive rights to your company name, your blueprints, your plans for "the hot new invention," etc. -- you cannot own the idea itself.

it depends on the kind of int property. If it a discovery or something scientific then it has to be protected before it is disclosed to the public. in order to protect your rights you have to register your discovery or invention in the us patent and trademark office (USPTO) because if you disclose it otherwise you will lose the novelty requirement. If you disclose the information and someone takes them from you and registers it then he will be considered the owner of the rights.

This doesnt apply to copyrights and related (neighboring) rights. I mean if you write a book and publish it or if you sing a song or paint a painting then you will have eternal rights for your work of art, and there rights are inheritible for 100 years in the US.

Yes, this is something innate to capitalism.

The purpose of knowledge is what you make it to be. Some people gather knowledge for no reason other than curiosity. Other people use knowledge to innovate. More generally, it's each person's choice what the purpose of his or her life should be. Relating back to your question, it is each person's choice what the purpose of knowledge is. Will they use it to benefit or harm humankind? Will they use it at all?

In our society, if there was no copyright, if all ideas were "free" as you suggest, authors, musicians, filmmakers, and software companies would steal each others ideas...which would probably lead to something chaotic.

To your added question:

I think the answer depends on the kind of idea under consideration. For example, if my idea is Christianity, I would not mind if you "took" my idea. I would even encourage it, as would most others. On the other hand, if my idea were the next eBay or Yahoo, I would probably hunt you down if you "took" it! Obviously, the motive of money is the invisible hand at work in a capitalistic system. With some ideas (such as eBay), you can become a billionaire, while with others (such as Christianity), you can't. Because of our society's inherent infatuation with money, we would like if we could protect our ideas so that no one can steal them. If you have an idea that could make millions, you probably should keep it to yourself until you patent it.

The answer to your additional question also depends on the intentions of the person under consideration. If my goal is to gain as much knowledge as possible and not do anything with it specifically, then I might keep my ideas to myself (unless I wanted to brag). What difference does it make to me if other people do or do not know? If your goal is to innovate and help society progress, then you would probably use your ideas in some way, which inevitably exposes them to others - that's why we have copyrights and patents and such - to protect people's ideas so that they can safely be developed.