PER FEDERAL ELECTION OFFICIAL : ILLEGALS Can AND ARE REGISTERING TO VOTE IN 49 OUT OF 50 STATES, Much Worse?

I have spent every waking minute trying to get to the bottom of this ever since my first post titled "Illegals can vote in Florida" Today I got to the bottom of it, and it is bad.

Forget about HAVA, Florida election officials blamed it all on HAVA but they were only partly correct .....

The Federal Elections Board Paralegal (with over 20 years experience) that I spoke with today put it all in laymen's terms for me, to start this person said HAVA is only one part of this mess, other parts are buried in other bills, and have been put in place over time, piece by piece.

anyway ... this is the laymen's explanation given to me of the whole mess and how this "loophole" as a whole works:

1) Per Law - It is required that Citizenship of a new voter be verified through official Identification when filing their states registration form for the first time

2) Per Law - It is illegal to verify Citizenship of a new voter at the time of voting. (at polling place)

3) Per Law - When a new voter is registering for the first time AND if they do not have the official identification required by their state then the state MUST provide the option of "none" on the registration form to use as identification and they must then accept the undocumented applicant as a registered US voter.

BUT #3 supercedes #1 as long as you are registering as a new voter for the first time. And It is only applicable under the conditions of being a first timer.

You and I could not use the "none" provision as we are already registered legal voters.

Once you use the "none" provision you automatically receive a voter registration card and your state issues you an official voter number to identify you and then YOU HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BYPASSED THE "REQUIRED" ID TO VERIFY CITIZENSHIP AT THIS POINT.

NOW COMES THE WORST PART :

This official went on to tell me that illegals ARE registering, but not with intent to vote (yet) What they are doing with their registered US voter number is putting the voter registration number onto an I-9 form and THAT IS THEN LEGAL ACCEPTED GOVERNMENT PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP !

Once registered if they did want to vote THEY CAN, here is how under this "loophole" :

Once you have your voter registration card with voter number in hand you must vote in person. At that time you must bring your identification with you to vote, but since you registered under the "none" provision you are allowed to use a non-government and non-official ID

Under federal law each state can decide which non-official ID to accept at the time of voting if you registered under the "none" provision, but because of the #2 statement above it can ONLY be used to verify a match of the name on your voter registration card at time of voting, it CAN NOT be used to verify citizenship.

For example : FL accepts a Sam's club card (among other things) but not a utility bill, However IL accepts a utility bill (among other things) but not a Sam's club card.

The federal law requires each state to accept ONE of several non-official ID's, but each state can pick which and how many to choose from.

MANY STATES DO NOT EVEN REQUIRE YOU LIST OR SUPPLY WHICH NON-OFFICIAL ID YOU WILL USE TO REGISTER, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS MARK "NONE" IN THOSE STATES

The trouble is these non-official non-government ID's can be made by any 6th grader on their home computer.

So, you can see it is not just HAVA, they added one thing to this bill, another thing to that bill, and as the paralegal said the only way to find the true complete scope of this whole mess is to read all of your states election and voter registration bills.

NOW, WHY ONLY 49 AND NOT 50 STATES

Arizona is the one state that doesn't have the loopholes because the public caught wind of it early enough to write and vote on a referendum requiring real and solid proof of citizenship, BUT this official said there are challenges to this AZ law in court.

When I asked this official straight out what the chances were of AZ being forced to conform since the referendum clearly shows the will of the AZ people, the short reply was "soon it will be all 50 states".

Needles to say, I will not identify this Federal employee since they stuck their neck out when they told me all this, they obviously felt these laws were ludicrous just as I and most other Americans feel they are.

BUT IF YOU WANT TO VERIFY THIS IT'S SIMPLE

Just go online and print out your own states mail in voter registration form, if there is a box to check for "NONE" in the ID area then you will know this person was correct.

BUT if it is not yet on the mail in form it does not mean you are safe, it might only mean they have not revised their form yet and I did not think to ask the cut off date for completing this.

IF "NONE" IS ON YOUR STATES VOTER REGISTRATION FORM ALREADY probably the only way you will find out what childish ID's your state picked will be to go online and read all the election and voter registration bills for your state, most states aren't advertising this to the public folks, it looks like they try to bury it.

Does your state accept a Sam's club card, a utility bill, a workers badge from any company, a comic book subscription ??? who knows, go look it up for yourself, it's online.

I have already verified the "none" provision for my state and several of the surrounding states, all had it that I researched, how about yours ?

Is AZ the only sane place left ?

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/alert/?...