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Son of God failed to convince Jews?
Son of God failed in bringing change in the hearts of his own tribesmen Jews, which i consider is a failure as a son of God! All he had was limited followers and even they betrayed him? How can a son of God so helpless?
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- spedusourceLv 72 decades agoFavorite Answer
The Jewish concept of Messiah is one who brings freedom to the Jewish people and, usually also peace to the land of Israel. Moses, Cyrus the Persian, etc. were all Messiahs.
It's not an afterlife issue. Jews don't believe in Hell. Jews believe that dutiful following of G-d's Law results in a clear conscience at death, which results in ease in being in G-d's presence. Having a guilty conscience results in the person's spirit not being able to "face" G-d... it is the person, and not G-d, who defines one's afterlife experience. This is "deep," "subconscious" awareness of one's righteousness and/or sin, not some sort of "wish away the bad stuff" deal. Why would you want the death of someone else (e.g. Jesus) on your soul? Having another human being "die" to take away the guilt of your own misdeeds makes no sense from the Jewish point of view. Actually any human sacrifice is clearly forbidden by the redemption of Issac. One does Mitzvah (prayer, charity, good works) to balance errors that you couldn't directly fix. If one is motivated by caring and good works, then the errors you make don't weigh too heavily on your soul, especially if you consciously seek to make things right. When the Temple existed, Temple sacrifice was a Mitzvah. It wasn't the actual food being sacrificed, but the willingness to give to the community through especially defined rules (an additional opportunity to follow Law), that cleansed the soul.
When Jesus did not drive out the Romans and bring Israel into independence and peace, those Jews who were initially following him realized that he was not a Messiah.
Christianity is actually Greco-Roman "dying god as bringer of life" cycle mythology tacked shakily onto Hebrew scripture so that Paul could start his own religous following with a Jew in the role of the dying spring god. When Rome took on Paul's concept in the 400's, they did so because they needed a religion based on submission to authority for their people, to try to hold a dying empire together. To discourage people looking too closely at the actual concepts in the original Hebrew scripture and possibly converting fully to Judaism and away from Christianity, they modified scriptures and preached heavily to make Jews into evil servants of the ancient pagan gods (devils) in the minds of their followers, and only referred to Jewish scripture line by line, pulled out without historical and full-text (original text, not the modified stuff) context, to try to prove Jesus' divinity.
- Anonymous2 decades ago
Actually, we are all children of God. The term "ben" (son) in Hebrew does not always mean a biological son. It can also mean "disiciple" as in "ben Torah," a "son" or follower of the teachings in the Torah, or "ben nevi'im" a "son of the prophets" which was the term given to the students at the prophetic schools in places like Mt. Carmel. So "son of God" does not mean that God slept with the Virgin Mary to conceive a child. That's a pagan concept anyway -- in the Greek mythologies, the gods came down and slept with mortals to conceive half-divine children.
As for Jesus not convincing his own people, some followed him, some didn't, the same as any other teacher. Personally, I think he was something like a Hasidic Rebbe. He was even called "The Nazarene" after his hometown, the same as Hasidic Rebbes today are named after the villages they came from, and he worked miracles, gave advice, told parables and stories -- again, similar to a Rebbe. Even today, some Jews accept certain Rebbes, some don't.
- 2 decades ago
His mission was fulfilled - he atoned for our sins and conquered death so we could gain eternal life.
I'm not sure why you think he was here to convince anyone of anything.
Those who believe, believe. Those who do not, do not. That is true today as it was when he walked the earth during his mortal ministry. He taught what needed to be taught. The rest is up to those who receive his message - they can accept it or reject it.
Interestingly, the eternal gifts he gave when he atoned for our sins and died on the cross are for all of us, whether we choose to believe in him or not. Salvation, though, is a different story. You'll get the picture one day, I can promise you that.
And by the way, his followers did not betray him. The leaders of his church as he established it, his apostles, were brutally tormented and murdered, as he was. They remained true to the faith to the very bitter end. As for his other followers, where do you think modern Christianity came from?
- Anonymous2 decades ago
Are you saying he could not convince his own tribesmen that he was the son of god?
Why would he? I bet that thought did not even enter his mind.
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- 2 decades ago
The son of God was not helpless. He knew what was going to happen and he allowed it to be that way. Jesus died for us. Only some of the believers chose to believe him and thats good. But those who didn't chose not to. He didn't fail he knew what he had to do and he did it.