Is believing in peace really anti-American or is it as I believe.."patriotic" ?

Hermann Goering put his finger on it in 1946, not long before he committed suicide. Gustav Gilbert, an intelligence officer, interviewed him in his jail cell at Nuremberg during the war crimes trials. The transcripts of these interviews were published in 1947 in Gilbert's Nuremberg Diary. Gilbert said to Goering that in a democracy the people have some say through their elected representatives and that in the US only Congress can declare war. Goering's recorded reply was: "That is all well and good, but voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

I used to think tat Bush was totally ignorant of history but apparently not

Everyone believes in peace it is how to achieve it that devides people. Sometimes war is the only way. The best way is by negotiation but that does not always work.

Terrorists don't want to talk just kill indiscriminately so the only answer is to hunt them down until they see sense in give up their arms like the IRA, ETA and PAGAD.

Some countries are bent on the destructoin of Israel, America and the west. Iran and Syria are the major funders and arms suppliers to terrorists. Whilst they do talk a little they carry on their evil trade. Alarmingly Iran is seeking atomic weapons and if they achieve that they are just fanatical enough to consider using them against Israel or America. If that threat became real would you still just seek peace without a military strike to prevent it? Millions of deaths and for what?

Believing in peace is one thing, achieving it is something else. It takes hard work, unpleasant decisions and sometimes war. It takes a long time but it is worth the struggle.

Hezbollah bombed and rocketed Israel for six years before Israel retaliated. Where were the peacenicks then? That was the time to search for peace and all anyone did was sit back and let it build up until Israel had no option to retaliate. The people who sat on their hands are the ones morally responsible for this conflict. Much more so than either Hezbollah or Israel.

Just believing in peace does not just mean nothing is done or achieved. The terrorist and war mongering nations use the vacuum to build up arms, train terrorists and kill people.

Anti American? No. But how many Americans have to die, How many Israeilis, Arabs, westerners and others before you think action should be taken to stop it?

America and the west are reacting to actions from others not the other way round.

I don't think believing is peace is un-American; I believe most Americans would welcome peace. The problem is: What do you have to sacrifice for peace? Is it freedom? Is it truth? Or is it something else that is equally as precious (or more precious than) peace. When one has to give up the other things they believe in to get peace, then they are giving up too much for peace. We didn't get where we are today by forgoing our freedoms for the sake of accord. I guess that makes us a bunch of war-mongering militants....so be it.

it is not unpatriotic to want peace. All reasonable people love peace and desire it. Unfortunately we have to defend our country and our way of life from psychotic fanatics who want to kill us and replace our freedom with a theocratic tyranny. If the terrorists get the BOMB they will not hesitate to use it on us and our allies. That is the chief difference between us and them. We would not use our BOMBs except as a last resort or in retaliation for an nuclear attack on our own citizens.

No matter what the neocon talking heads and war hawks say, believing in peace has NEVER been anti-American or un-American:

"Where is it written in the Constitution, in what section or clause is it contained, that you may take children from their parents and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battle in any war in which the folly or the wickedness of government may engage it?" -- Daniel Webster

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin, "Historical Review of Pennsylvania," 1759

"[America] goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. She will commend the general cause by the countenance of her voice, and the benignant sympathy of her example. She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom. The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from *liberty* to *force*.... She might become the dictatress of the world. She would be no longer the ruler of her own spirit...." -- President John Quincy Adams's Fourth of July oration, 1821

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." -- Theodore Roosevelt

"When even one American--who has done nothing wrong--is forced by fear to shut his mind and close his mouth, then all of Americans are in peril." -- Harry S. Truman

"Of all enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debt and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended. Its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those of subduing the force of the people. The same malignant aspect may be traced in the inequality of fortunes and the opportunities of fraud growing out of a state of war ... and in the degeneracy of manners and morals engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare." -- James Madison (1751-1836), known as "the Father of the Constitution" and fourth president of the United

States (1908-1817), writing in 1795.

"When you make peaceful revolution impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable." -- John F. Kennedy

"When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." -- Sinclair Lewis, c. 1935

"I apprehend no danger to our country from a foreign foe. Our destruction, should it come at all, will be from another quarter. From the inattention of the people to the concerns of their government, from their carelessness and negligence, I must confess that I do apprehend some danger. I fear that they may place too implicit a confidence in their public servants, and fail properly to scrutinize their conduct; that in this way they may be made the dupes of designing men, and become the instruments of their own undoing." -- Daniel Webster, June 1, 1837

We are fighting to have our friend's,and family to come home.We want peace. We really do. It is not our fault that the 3rd world Country's can't fight their own Battles. We did not ask for 9/11.We did not ask to go to the 2ND war.We are not guilty of anything but to help others.So to want peace is not anti -American.

GOD BLESS OUR COUNTRY!

It's really anti-american!