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Who else gets fed up of homophobes saying "I have gay friends and I really love them, but ..."?
Is it the most pathetic excuse for homophobia, or what?
And who else really hates the phrase "love the sin, but hate the sinner"?
And who used the last of my camomile tea without telling me?
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I COLOR ... if it was you, then that's OK :-)
JD: Sweetie, umm ... oh, never mind.
KEDAR: spooky ... that's exactly what I am drinking!
And if I hear the word "lifestyle" one more time I shall scream!!! What the **** is a "lifestyle"? I have a life; I like to think it has a certain style ... and?
OOPS: putting that quotation from Augustine the wrong way round really was just a typo - I wasn't trying to be clever or anything, just the usual dizzy baggage.
PALADIN: I can accept that other people have different beliefs from me ... it's the hypocrites I despise.
RIVEROTTER: Earl Grey with cream?
Oh, my dear, the sooner we get you on the island the sooner we can help you.
It's no good, I need to go and lie down now.
Earl Grey with ... cream? *shudders*
YGL: gosh, sweetie, you need the camomile more than I do! I hope the Long Island Iced Tea helps you get to the Happy Place!
21 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
I really, really hate that. It's just their way of trying to make themselves feel better in their own minds. Because after all they have token gay friends...but a true friend wouldn't say something like that about someone they cared about. A true friend would accept you just as you are and not feel the need to say "I have gay friends and I really love them, BUT homosexuality is evil". It would be no different than a white racist saying that they have black friends (just so they don't look racist) and then proceeding to spew hate. It's disgusting. The way I see it, if you are going to be a hateful bigot, at least have the balls to be honest about it.
I always reply to Christians (because that's what most homophobes are), "Well I hate the Christianity but I love the Christian." and I watch them turn red with rage. Very rarely do they get the point I was trying to make.
Source(s): And no, I'm more of a coffee drinker. ;-) - ?Lv 71 decade ago
Nope, not me! Camomile tea makes me sneeze! I much prefer Earl Grey with cream. May I offer you some, with a chocolate cookie of course.
Yes, Dearest, I really do dislike it when people use the "but" when trying to qualify themselves. You know darned well they're going to try and knife you in the back with that one. It's just like when people say"I don't mean to be nasty *but*..." You get the picture.
The phrase "love the sinner but hate the sin" is the same thing. You can't. The hate of the sin will over-ride the so-called love for the sinner. It's human nature no matter what someone is going to say that it's not. Let's be real about this.
If the hatred is there, it's going to manifest itself. Sad but true.
More tea, Dearest?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I am just plain fed up, period. I'm thinking in rants and am sure my reply will divert in tangents, but it's due to a variety of emotions after having read the many varied replies above.
Oddly I see the image of a poster I had on my wall when I was a kid. A Pink Panther poster. The text " I love mankind, it's people I can't stand".
My birth, or rather my existance is not a "sin" and I refuse to be defined as such by anyone or any religion, regardless of their beliefs.
Much of organized religion is state-sponsored discrimination and I will refute all veiled attempts of their false tolerance and or "acceptance". By state sponsored I imply "legal". Nike Corp. cannot state in their Corporate Compliance that they "believe" homosexuality is a sin, yet tax -exempt Churches "can" and do. This is crap.
I have a legal right to live my life without being discriminated against. Freedom of speech does NOT give the right for Churches to "denounce" my life or define my existance as a deviant. Sure they can "refuse my presence" in their "private" organization, but they have no right to defame me.
I'm just a law student now so I'm still a bit stupid. But someday I will raise so much legal opposition to the organized religions who CONDEMN an entire sector of the human race, that they will see HELL before any real sinner does.
And in conclusion, anyone who says "I have a friend...but" is a worthless piece of ignorant trash. A weak and insecure, pathetic example of spineless human waste.
I borrowed the tea for my Long Island Iced......
- NHBaritoneLv 71 decade ago
NEWS FLASH: If you think people are treating you like a friend when you are willing to vote against their interest, you're mistaking basic human courtesy for friendship. Friends watch each others' backs and work to help their lives improve.
I remember when people would say during the 60s, "But some of my best friends are black," followed by some negative stereotype about black people. The phrase "Love the sinner, hate the sin," is the anti-gay equivalent.
And anyone who is willing to vote against the rights of a segment of the community that is doing no harm and simply trying to live a stable life is by definition bigoted. Choose your term: Homophobia or Bigotry. Either way, it's prejudicial repression.
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- Essin EmLv 41 decade ago
This reminds me of my friend in college, who was from the South. She said that you could get away with saying anything, as long as you said "god bless her." Such as "god bless her, but she's such a little slut!" or "he's got the brains of a carrot, god bless him!"
I hate when people identify someone as only one thing, say they're ok with it, and then go off with what is "wrong" with it. I get it a lot with being a feminist too "Well, I'm a feminist too, but seriously, why are you upset that everyone assumes you want kids?" or "I support feminism, but don't understand why he was found guilty of rape - she never said NO outloud!" It's as though identifying with, or having friends of a certain identity washes away all the rudeness and hate of whatever they say next.
Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin = hypocritical
However, your typo "love the sin, but hate the sinner" = HILARIOUS. Sounds like the men who are like "I like to suck cock/be anally penetrated, but I'm no homosexual!"
I don't drink camomille. Only roiboos and green :)
-Essin' Em, hotmoviesforher.com
- 1 decade ago
The same kind of clap-trap has been used against people of many different ethnicity's, nationalities and religious/nonreligious paths, I've never liked that kind of "mold-fuzzy logic"
Love the sinner,hate the sin! Yeah, right, that's why there is so much venom directed at the "sinners". Do they think if they inject enough of their poison into them they will kill the sin?
I only took enough for one cup of tea, there was plenty left.
- kena2miLv 41 decade ago
Equally bothersome is any sentence beginning with "Well, I'm not a racist, but...", and for the same reasons. It's invariably followed by some foul racist or stereotypical drivel. You don't express "love" for someone by insulting or demeaning them, or by deliberately making their life more miserable.
Not sure if you deliberately inverted the "love the sin..." rhetoric, but it's certainly more truthful than the official version... those that use it positively drool at the prospect of pointing out the flaws in others.
And, it wasn't me... I'm not a big chamomile fan, and I have plenty of green tea in the cupboard.
- 1 decade ago
Sorry, I drank your tea. I had a bad toothache and the cammomile helps make me sleepy so I don't feel the pain no more :( Sorry..I'll get you some more.
And yeah, those saying irk me. It's like conditional love. Like a parent saying "oh I love you..but"...well, isn't that kinda messed up. Why don't you just say "I TOLERATE you but I don't ACCEPT you"? You should like me for ALL of who and what I am, not CHANGE me to meet your comfort level. (I'm dealing with this very issue right now with my 1 year 'f**k buddy'/relationship thing)
- Anonymous1 decade ago
When I read that phrase or the one about blacks then I know what's coming next, it's as predictable as 1-2-3. It's stupid as they are trying to protect themselves before they come out with some phobic nonsense
Source(s): Experience - Anonymous1 decade ago
I wish I had an articulate intellectual anwer to reply with. I guess I could say the same thing: Love the person, hate that they commit wrath (judgment on me). Love/hate...two very strong feelings intertwined in the same sentence.