Global Warming: Real, or Hoax?

Global Warming could very well be a dangerous hoax. I would say that even the oil companies encourage the hoax. The hoax is that CO2 is the cause of global warming.

Leaving the science, I will explain why I think it is a dangerous hoax and not just a hoax. Oil is being found in Canada, South America, Africa, and India. Now these countries want to go to market but they don't want to play ball with the big chiefs - American companies. This is why Venezuela's Chavez is making a stand against the US. The profits should go to those countries and to their development, not to some American multinationals like what's happening in Iraq. The IPCC plan will prevent these countries from entering the market, unless they play ball with multinationals. This is because they will limit oil distribution to the good ol' boys.

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The best alternate energy sources to oil happen to be the highest CO2 emitters. That's ethanol and other fuels made from vegetables, corn, soy, and hemp. If CO2 is the problem, our solutions suddenly become limited as to how to tackle our environmental and energy problems. Essentially making us dependent on oil companies once again who will charge us more since there is carbon tax. Yet their product will be much cheaper than third world oil and ethanol and other fuels.

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It will make energy unbearably expensive (and therefore keeping the third world down for more exploitation and oppression) which is only good for highly industrialized nations and the rich.

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Developing countries will be the most hurt. Africa has already been told that they could not use the abundant coal they have as an energy source and their oil reserves are now being taken out of their control as well.

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Rich people can afford to keep a good life style, but everyone else won't be able to afford it. We will be taxed every time we shut on our computers.

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We Will be coerced by taxes to buy products that will lower our standard of life and may cause other health and environmental problems. Expl: Toxic chemical industries sell fluorescent and other toxic chemical lights to replace the light bulb.

Many businesses have already invested much money to capitalize on the global warming scare while our lives and our freedom will be controled just like what they did to us with the Patriot Act.

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If we stop making CO2 the enemy, we could essentially save the planet with reforestation, saving rain forests, allocating preservation's, increasing the quality of life in the third world, etc. Technology is one of our great hopes in solving the current environmental and economic problems. Thanks to the computer, millions of acres of trees have been saved from the Axe because we've gone digital. Toxic vinyl has been replaced by mp3's. With a computer, a poor person has almost as much power as the rich.

We could take advantage of the fact that the sun is sending greater amounts of energy upon the earth right now. If we could harness that energy and store it in batteries for future use, we could focus on solar energy instead of making the poor poorer while the rich live it up. But because the focus is on CO2 emissions, all GW programs as put by the IPCC is mostly about preventing CO2 emissions and not about the environment.

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This issue is not as simple as it seems. If I could get some renegades out there to dig deeper we may find out for ourselves what's really going on. Don't trust anyone in government or any head of a multinational corporation. Think as an individual.

Don't believe anything you read and only 1/2 of what you see.

Of course, Global warming is real. The last Ice age has gone away, has it not? So, we must have global warming.

Do people contribute to global warming? Probably some small amount, after all we ARE Warm and we breath in oxygen and breath out CO2, we must be part of the problem. What is Al Gore going to do about it? Kill a whole lot of people? Invariably that is what Socialists do when they take control of a country.

Is that better than destroying their economy and causing millions to starve to death?

Hoax, it is an outright lie, lead by fools and charlatans who hope to scare the American public into destroying our ecomny. I base this on the following facts that any 5th grader can easily check out if they really want to know the truth, instead of being lead by the nose like a complete fool.

1. The alarmist claim that burning fossil fuels is the cause of recent warming, however most of the warming took place before most of the increase of CO2. There was actually a significant cooling period from the mid-1940s to the late 1970s, while CO2 was increasing rapidly, and there was another increase from 1979 to 1998. In fact there has been no warming since 1998 – an eight-year period, and even a slight statistically cooling, despite the fact that CO2 has continued to rise.

2. The correlation between co2 emissions effecting global warming is extremely small compared to the correlation between global temperature and sun cycles. The sun cycles affect temperature in two ways first by the cycling up and down of actual heat energy that is emitted by the sun. This has a small effect on global temperature. The more important one is cycling in solar winds. Solar wind blocks cosmic radiation from coming into the Earth’s atmosphere. The more cosmic rays come in the more low level clouds there are and low-level clouds reflect solar heat energy back into space. If there are more clouds the earth is cooler and if there are fewer clouds, the earth is warmer. As solar wind cycles up cosmic rays cycle up and down in reverse and clouds up and down. So the solar window is very important to earth’s temperature, but you will not change.

Read and understand this essay and it will give you a bigger picture of whats happening here. It will also discribe why the scientist have it wrong to some extent and give you a way to understand what happens to form the glaciers.

http://www.thebear.org/essays2.html#anchor506010

Here also is an excerpt about global CO2 from an essay below the one about ice age.

"CO2, this important gas is the principle 'culprit' according to the eco-terrorists. The CO2 content in the atmosphere is only a very tiny amount, about 300 parts per million (.03%). This CO2 stays in the air in equilibrium with the CO2 dissolved in the oceans. Since CO2 has a very steep curve of solubility in water, the amount found in the air is critically dependent upon the sea surface temperatures (cold rain falling is an excellent CO2 scrubber). World CO2 measurements have traditionally been based on the levels tested in the air at Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii. The charts of the levels fluctuate seasonally, rising in the early summer and falling in the early winter. If the levels are compared to the actual sea surface temperature measurements taken at Hilo, which is at the base of Mauna Loa, the seasonal variations are seen to track exactly with the temperature. Even the gradual increase over time is duplicated in the temperature reading, as the average SST temperature at Hilo has been rising in exact lock step with the rise in the Mauna Loa CO2 levels. (The charts of these measurements are available, making this a trivial exercise if you wish to verify my statements)."

I'm going to say with my teacher told me ' right now we're saying global warming is real because I don't feel like getting into the political stuff but if you don't think it's real then I apologize for every bad thing that's ever happened in your life that has made you a trump supporter'

I like the way you presented an unbiased look at both 'sides' of the issue ; ). But really, the only thing you said that was true in the second part was the bit about cows producing methane. But even that wasn't important because methane emissions from cows being raised for human consumption are considered human sources as well.

I think I'd like to see what exactly 'rarely accurate' data Gore used in his film. Because from what I've seen of it it appears to be well in line with current scientific opinion. So if it wouldn't be too much trouble please provide some sources for that claim.

I'd also like to see sources on the claim that scientists have predicted an eminent ice age. because again I've heard nothing of the kind.

I think you're on the right track.

Much of it IS spin. I believe that one of the first steps you can take is called the theory Anthropogenic or Man-made Global Warming. Just as you surmised, there is ample evidence that man can affect the accumulation of GHGs and in turn, affect Global Warming. A scientist can easily agree with this opinion concerning the possibility or probability of man's contribution.

This has been distorted to claim that there is scientific consensus that man is to blame for global warming.

Global warming is possibly happening, but there's little evidence that it's caused by anything humans or animals do.

If you follow the money trail you'll see why some are trying to create hysteria over a natural occurrence.

Read "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Environmentalism." It's very enlightening on the subject. I got if from the library, but there's so much in there I may have to buy a copy to reference.

Global warming is real and primarily caused by humans. The scientific data supports this conclusion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Climate_Change_...

Cows do not contribute a significant amount of greenhouse gases. The calculations that they contribute ~18% were based on data from the 1930s. A study was recently done at UC Davis where they put cows in a big bubble and collected and measured the methane they emitted, and found it was far less than previously thought.

Another Ice Age isn't coming - we're still coming out of the last Ice Age.

An Inconvenient truth did not used biased data, and the vast majority of it was accurate.

"The nation's top climate scientists are giving An Inconvenient Truth, Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy."

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/2006-06-27-go...

The only complaint I've heard about the film's accuracy was the "hockey stick graph", which downplayed the Little Ice Age and Midieval Warm Period. If you don't like that graph, just use this one instead, which brings you to the same conclusions:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:2000_Year_Tempe...

Or if you don't want to rely on the film (which is fine), then read the IPCC Summary for Policymakers. It's only 18 pages long with lots of nice charts and graphs and is the summary of the best science in the world when it comes to global warming.

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/Report/AR4WG1_Pub_SPM...

Whatever you do, please base your opinions on scientific data and not prejudices against Al Gore or whatever else.

There are bigger things to worry about right now. If people could come up with as many solutions for the Iraq conflict as they can for global warming we would be in a lot better shape over there.

And don't forget that a few decades ago scientists were dead convinced of "global cooling" and predicted that we would be in an ice age by now.