Why do people wach the most tallentless sports in racing Indy Car & NASCAR???

Maybe try watching spell check. There are more passes made at retirement home social than during a whole season of F1.

Sport - noun: an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature, as racing, baseball, tennis, golf, bowling, wrestling, boxing, hunting, fishing, etc. So, are you REALLY asking if autoracing is... racing? Or do you somehow think that competing for a win is not of a competitive nature? I think it's fair to say that racing is racing, racing is a sport, therefore... But the reality of this question, which gets asked here over and over and over again, generally by people that have no actual knowledge of motorsports, is about it being an athletic activity or that it requires a skill or physical prowess. So let's head back to the dictionary for a moment for "athletic," and we get "...physical skills or capabilities, as strength, agility, or stamina." While different forms of motorsports will place different emphasis on different abilities, they all require a physical skillset and a large amount of time spent developing those skills (in my experience as a driver and in coaching other drivers, I would say that it most drivers "get it" somewhere around 2000-3000 hours of actual seat time... which translates to many years of actual driving). Additionally, driving a racecar can be extremely physical and most drivers (all at the professional level) carry out training routines similar to what you would find with athletes in other sports... But let's take a brief snapshot... as a pro-driver, leaving aside starting your training around age 6 in order to get an appropriate amount of reps in the sport to actually have a shot at being a pro, you are now going to need all of the skill you've developed over those years to keep the car constantly balanced while navigating the course and other traffic (and protecting your line while attacking others, and not losing pace as a result); you will need to provide over 300 pounds of braking pressure 6-10 times every 90 seconds for over two hours... each time you provide that pressure, you must do so within 1 or 2 pounds of the exact amount, if you are fatigued and apply too much or too little you will lose pace or lose control. You will do this will subjecting your body to 3 or 4Gs of loading, making your head and that very light helmet have close to 150 pounds of force... if your neck muslces fatigue and you can't hold your head up straight (common among novices), you will lose pace or control. You will have to do all of the above in a cockpit where the ambient temperature will be close to 200 degress and you will lose 10 pounds of waterweight during your driving stint (oh, and you will be in that heat while wearing multiple layers of heavy nomex... because if something goes wrong, you'll need those few precious seconds of protection to not die in the fire). So, if you think doing that does not require strength, stamina, agility, or skill, and is somehow not competitive or racing... then it would not be a sport. Otherwise, it is, by definition, a sport.

NASCAR talent is far superior. As mentioned above, again and again, there is passing. being in a crowd and maneuvering the car around the corners is talent. BTW how many drivers from any other motorsports came to nascar and won. Right now between them all they have a whopping 4 wins!

At least in NASCAR or Indy Cars there is the occasional passing which then, in turn, actually makes it a race. Do not get me wrong I enjoy F-1 as well but the thing to watch there is qualifying. Very limited passing(overtaking) there.

It isn't that one requires more talent than another. Driving any form of race car requires a lot of talent.

Driving and controling such a machine is hard enough, whether it is a heavy powerful stock car, a lightning quick F1 car, or the offset chasis Indy Car.

They are three completely different machines and require a lot of skill to handle through traffic.

I would love to see a series where we get the best of F1, IRL, NASCAR, WoO, and Champ Car World Series and have one dirt track race (World of Outlaws Sprint car), one superspeedway oval(Indy Car) , one city street course(Champ Car), one road course(F1 car), and one short track(Stock Car). THat would be the only way we could ever settle the debate over talented drivers.

Why do you Formula One people constantly bash us Nascar fans, Nascar is real racing F-1 oh oops I meant to say F-2 ,, is not real racing. Explain this how come F-1 drivers come over to Nascar and say that F-1 is not a competitive sport, and I agree with them i have watche dF-1 there is no passing no action, at ALL

Maybe we watch NASCAR because the cars don't have traction control and computer governed shift points and the drivers actually have to do something to make the car work.

Maybe we also like see cars close together and even passing!

I know, you F1 geeks can't understand that, but passing cars is racing. Time trialing and follow the leader is lame!!!

If you don't believe you have to have talent to drive a race car, (yes even in NASCAR) you should give it a try. It takes a lot of conditioning and talent to drive in those races. If it didn't, then everyone would do it. I hear it pays very well!

I hate to think that you just called so many of the GREATS talent less.

bcuz its hard turning left you get your butt out there and try it its not as easy as you think and you have to have lots of talent to do that its a lot more then turning the wheel left you have to have enough control over your car to completely make the turn and not spin out or hit other ppl

We "wach" it because we don't like the weenie little fans that follow that euro crap.BTW-drifting is the most "tallentless" form of racing.