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Abortion the women's right to choose..but what about the child's rights to live?

Hello Everyone.. :)

I do not want any anger or evil words said against one another..~Please~

I am just asking for your honest thoughts and opinions..on the questions I have asked.. :)

The questions are:

1.) If a child is in it's mothers womb and someone kills the mom and unborn child..Why then can the person, be charged with a double homicide?

2.) Is it because the child is a living human being, with the same rights as ours?

3.) But a child who is aborted by their Mom's, do they not have the same right or dignity?

4.) Is it because they say, the baby is not a living human being, like us?

7.) Who or what then decides a childs rights, have been terminated or violated?

These types of questions have burdened my heart..

As they seem to contridicate one another.. :(

Update:

ADDITIONAL: No matter what your Answers are..I will give you All a Thumbs-Up.. :)

Update 2:

The reason I call a fetus a living human being is because Dictionary.com states:

1 : the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus:

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How can a fetus die, if it was not first alive?

Update 3:

ADDITIONAL: Please accept my deepest apologies..I made a mistake..it should read 5.) not 7.)

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    Pro-abortion - Definition

    Pro-abortion is the belief in the right to choose to terminate a fetus (fertilized embryo). Pro-abortion is also a movement, which fights for the rights of women to have a choice to end unwanted pregnancies.

    Pro-abortion - History of the Movement

    Pro-abortion advocates fought and won the legalization of abortion in Colorado and California in 1967. Pro-abortion advocates continued on their path and by 1970 sixteen states allowed abortion. New York, Hawaii, California and Alaska had more liberal policies, allowing abortion on demand up to 20 weeks into pregnancy. However Arkansas, Colorado, Delaware, Georgia, Kansas, Maryland, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, South Carolina and Virginia only allowed abortion in cases of rape, incest, and severe fetal abnormalities or to protect the life of the mother. The pro-abortion movement was slowed and many appeals were filed to reverse these legislative policies. All other states refused to allow abortions.

    Pro-abortionists' greatest victory was won in "Roe vs. Wade". Through this lawsuit, the Supreme Court legalized abortion in all 50 states on January 22, 1973. Although the popular vote was against abortion on demand, "Roe vs. Wade" became the foundation of the pro-abortion agenda.

    Pro-abortion - Today

    The pro-abortion agenda has matured from back alley abortions, to abortion on demand in all 50 states up to 24-25 weeks after fertilization, and even to the point of allowing partial birth abortions. Pro-abortion advocates believe in the right to choose to terminate a pregnancy. There are even laws now dictating abortion rights of teenagers and their parents. Is the law on the side of pro-abortion, or isn't it?

    Pro-abortion - The Problem

    Pro-abortion - Is the verdict really in? Abortion is legal in all 50 states. On the other hand, murder is illegal in all 50 states. Herein lies the problem -- How can we say it is against the law to kill and allow the abortion rate of 1 in 4 pregnancies to continue? When does the origin of life begin? Were we created at conception, knit together in our mother's womb right from the beginning? Or is it the air in our lungs that changes our status from a fetus to a life? Of course, the pro-abortion position must advocate that life doesn't begin until some time late in the gestation process. However, God's position has always been that we are each a unique individual created by Him for a special purpose from the moment of conception. Recent discoveries in biochemistry confirm what the Bible has declared for centuries, that each of us is "fearfully and wonderfully made." From the moment the sperm miraculously fertilizes the egg, God begins the process of creating our inmost being and knits us together in our mother's womb (Psalm 139:13-14).

    Pro-abortion - A Final Thought

    On January 22, 1973, the Supreme Court's decision in the case of Roe v. Wade, allowed abortions in the first six months of pregnancy. Twenty-three years later, Norma McCorvey, who was the "Jane Roe" in the Roe v. Wade suit, was interviewed by USA Today. She stated that once, while employed at a clinic when no one was in: "I went into the procedure room and laid down on the table... trying to imagine what it would be like having an abortion... I broke down and cried." On ABC's World News Tonight, Norma McCorvey said: "I think abortion's wrong. I think what I did with Roe v. Wade was wrong." (American Minute with Bill Federer, January 22, 2003)

    Partial Birth Abortion - Finding Comfort in a Huge Myth

    Partial Birth Abortion was the topic in a recent Wall Street Journal article. The following is a letter to the editor of the Wall Street Journal responding to the article (source: Wall Street Journal; May 14, 2001).

    Partial Birth Abortion - Letter to the Editor

    The Journal has informed its readers that partial birth abortion is a "rare" procedure, "typically performed when the life of the mother is at risk, or the fetus is determined to have severe abnormalities" ("Drive to Ban Abortion Procedure Slows," April 27.) But those claims, fabricated by pro-abortion advocacy groups in 1995, had been thoroughly discredited by early 1997.

    The Journal said that "critics . . . contend the procedure sometimes is used in less dire circumstances." Actually, it was abortionists and their paid spokespersons who admitted that partial birth abortion is routinely used for purely elective abortions, usually in the fifth and sixth months of pregnancy. For example, Ron Fitzsimmons, executive director of the National Coalition of Abortion Providers, told The New York Times that "in the vast majority of cases, the procedure is performed on a healthy mother with a healthy fetus" (Feb. 26, 1997).

    Mr. Fitzsimmons elsewhere estimated that 4,000-5,000 abortions annually are performed by the partial birth method. He expressed regret for his own role in previously propagating what he called a "party line," stating, "I lied through my teeth." The claim that partialbirth abortions are used only or mostly in unusual medical circumstances was also disproved by reporters for the Hackensack (N.J.) Record and the Washington Post, among others. These reporters interviewed numerous abortionists, who readily acknowledged that they routinely use the method for purely elective abortions.

    In January 1997, the PBS media criticism program "Media Matters" treated as a case study in bad reporting the news media's earlier, uncritical dissemination of the abortion lobby's lies about partial birth abortion.

    For a respected national newspaper to resurrect such blatant misinformation four years later may demonstrate how attached some journalists are to comforting myths about abortion.

    Douglas Johnson, Legislative Director

    National Right to Life Committee

    Washington

    Partial Birth Abortion - Don’t Fall Into Complacency

    Partial Birth Abortion is utterly grotesque. If you don’t know how the procedure works, or when it’s happening, then find out. For us to sit back and allow partial birth abortion to slip into mainstream acceptance – to say this is a political issue, not a moral/ethical/religious issue is ridiculous and sad. Educate yourself – then speak up!

    What is the history of abortion?

    The history of abortion in America can be traced back to the early American colonies. The people of this time were totally against any kind of abortion until well into the 19th century. In fact, it was considered a misdemeanor if you had an abortion after what was called quickening (feeling life). Most states considered the child in the womb to have legal rights even after the death of the mother. It wasn't until 1962 when there was organized effort toward legalizing abortion even though physicians had written about the abortion problem since 1933.

    Different religions have different teachings about abortion. It was most common in ancient Greece and Rome. The Assyrians impaled women on stakes for attempting abortion. The Jewish Talmud teaches the fetus is not a person and has no rights. In the year 1312, The Church in the Council of Vienne embraced the view that abortion was considered homicide only after the fetus was already formed, which was usually at the end of the first trimester.

    But, then, sperm cells, when examined under a microscope in the seventeenth century, showed a fully formed human being. It was then that most Catholics were excommunicated if they engaged in the act of abortion.

    To continue on in the history of abortion, in the early 1800s, it was discovered that human life did not actually begin when the expectant mother "felt life," but, rather, at the time of fertilization. So, the British Parliament in 1869 passed what was called "Offenses Against the Persons Act," dropping the felony punishment back to fertilization. That began a sequence of various states setting their own law against abortion, and by 1860, 85% of the population lived in states prohibiting abortion with new laws.

    As far as convictions were concerned, abortionists, if convicted, were sent to jail for varying lengths of time, and women were never implicated in undergoing or soliciting abortions. Even when women were accused by an abortionist of being an accomplice, women were never convicted. But, because there were no accurate methods for diagnosing early pregnancy, there was nothing medically or legally binding to convict the abortionist. The only way to know a woman was pregnant was for the doctor to hear the fetal heart, and that was only possible when the expectant mother was four or five months along. Prior to that, the abortionist could claim that her menstrual period was late, or that she had some other problem, and all he did was to bring on her period. You cannot convict a person of murder unless the body can be produced, and since the tissue could not be examined from the woman's body, in a court of law, it was impossible to prove she had been pregnant, or that the actions of the abortionist had terminated the pregnancy. So, the only time an abortionist was prosecuted is when the woman had been injured or killed.

    In 1900, abortion had been banned at any time during pregnancy (except when necessary to save the woman's life) by every state in the Union. Why the reversal in views? Religion had little to do with it, but rather, drastic economic and social conversions were turning this country to an urban-industrial society. America was changing from having one of the highest birthrates in the world to one of the lowest. Abortion played a role in that change.

    Then, in 1973, Roe v. Wade is the historic Supreme Court decision overturning a Texas interpretation of abortion law and making abortion legal in the United States. The Roe v. Wade decision held that a woman, with her doctor, could choose abortion in earlier months of pregnancy without restriction, and with restrictions in later months, based on the right to privacy.

    Pro-choice Abortion - It Wasn't a Choice

    Pro-choice abortion is the belief that women have the right to choose to abort a baby from their body. The "pro-choice" view is that a baby does not have human rights within the mother's womb. The people of the United States never voted on or supported this pro-choice position. Actually, it was the U.S. Supreme Court that "legalized" abortion as a result of Roe vs. Wade on January 22, 1973.

    Pro-choice Abortion - The Procedural Choices (no gory details)

    Pro-choice abortion allows women to choose how to abort an unwanted child. Typically, the abortion method is determined by the age of the fetus. During the first trimester of growth, a woman may elect to use the "morning after pill" (RU-486) or have a Suction Abortion. At the end of the third month, the abortion is usually performed by Dilation and Curettage (D&C) or, after thirteen weeks, a Dilation and Extraction (D&E). After sixteen weeks of fetal growth, a woman can choose to experience a Partial Birth Abortion or have Saline Amniocentesis. Regardless of the moral and religious implications, every woman should investigate how each procedure is done, what side effects are normal or abnormal, and what complications may arise due to having an abortion.

    Pro-choice Abortion - Consider the Health Risks of Abortion

    Pro-choice abortion is supported by Planned Parenthood, which is being sued for failure to provide information to patients of risks associated with having an abortion. Planned Parenthood is not being sued for cash. Instead, the organization is being asked to inform patients of the link between breast cancer and abortion. Reports show termination of pregnancy interrupts cellular changes that occur in the breast during pregnancy. According to recent figures, 28 out of 37 studies link abortion to a 30% to 800% increased risk of breast cancer. Legal precedence linking abortion to breast cancer was first made in Australia on December 28, 2001.

    Women contemplating this procedure should consider another risk of abortion: Pelvic Inflammatory Disease (PID). PID is a well-known infection occurring in 5.2% of first trimester abortions and 18.5% of mid-trimester abortions at John Hopkins University. These percentages likely double at some unaffiliated clinic facilities throughout the United States. PID often renders its victims infertile, even with prompt treatment. (M. Spence, "PID Detection and Treatment," Sexually Transmitted Disease Bulletin JHU, Vol. 3, No. 1, Feb. 83.)

    In addition to the foregoing risks, 1% of women having an abortion will need a blood transfusion, of which 10% will contract Viral Hepatitis. Approximately 2% of these women will die. With 1,600,000 estimated abortions annually in the U.S., that means 32 women a year will die from transfusions needed after having an abortion. (R. Voelker, "Hepatitis B: Planned Standard," AM MED News, Oct. 13, 1989, pg. 2.)

    Pro-choice Abortion - Is There Really A Choice?

    Pro-choice abortion - The facts are clear; abortion puts you at risk, medically and morally. We just reviewed the medical abortion risks; now what about the moral/ethical risks inherent in terminating a life? Of course, the argument in favor of the "pro-choice" position is that the fetus is not a human life; it's merely a fertilized egg between a man and a woman. Here's the basic argument for why that "justification" breaks down at any point in the human gestation process. First, according to biological definition, we know that the fetus growing in the womb is "alive" from the moment of conception (cell growth/development occurs immediately). Second, we know that the nature of the life in that womb is undeniably "human" (the miracle of DNA). Third, by definition, an abortion terminates the fetus within the womb, which is alive and human by nature. Therefore, abortion is the act of terminating a human life. Legal or not, medically safe or not, this is not a choice we can make.

    Teen Abortion - Parental Notification

    Teen abortion is legal in all states, though some require parental permission or notification. At a time when schools are not allowed to give students aspirin without parental permission, teenage abortion, the killing of an innocent life, is allowed without permission in over 20 states. In Minnesota, teenage abortion has declined since the passing of parental notification laws in the 1980's (American Journal of Public Health, "Impact of the Minnesota Parental Notification Law on Abortions and Births," March 1991). By 1992, 29 states had enacted parental notification and consent laws, and each of these states are now showing declining teenage abortion percentages. On one level, this reveals that parents wanting to protect their children choose to allow the birth of their teenagers' infants rather than choosing to abort these babies. Advocates of the "Pro Choice" movement choose to ignore the risks involved in having an abortion and deny the moral and religious implications arising from the biological reality of abortion.

    Teen Abortion - Your Decision

    Teen abortion is a decision that will impact your life dramatically, whether you decide to abort or decide to give birth. People you know will choose to support your decision or condemn your decision, but this is your decision and you will live with the choice you make for the rest of your life. Once an abortion has been done it can't be undone. The infant is dead. So take the time to think and know what you are doing to your body and to the life inside your body. If you decide to carry the child and bring a child into this world you will endure some criticism, inconvenience and the greatest joy God has given us here on earth. Shortly after conception, the miracle of DNA is underway forming a unique human almost immediately. At 8 weeks, you may not even know you are pregnant, but the baby's heart is beating steadily and every organ is present. At 8 1/2 weeks, the miracle of individuality is already visible as the baby's fingerprints are being imprinted.

    Teen abortion has many risks. Studies have proven that abortion may lead to an increased chance of breast cancer, Pelvic Inflammatory Disease, depression, and the contraction of Viral Hepatitis, not to mention death due to excessive bleeding or other complications. Whether you choose to keep your baby, put it up for adoption or have an abortion, hormones run crazy when you are pregnant. Hormones are to blame for the drastic mood swings pregnant women have during pregnancy. As you feel the life inside you start to grow, you will become attached to, or perhaps even angry at, this new life. This life is exactly that - he or she is alive and it is a part of you!

    Teen Abortion - Lasting Effects

    Teen abortion will affect you well into the future. Initially, you will feel cramping as the excess blood is discharging from your body -- similar, but not as strong as, the pains felt during labor and delivery. This physical effect may cause you to feel an emotional emptiness you have never felt before. This emptiness is the beginning of depression that studies say can last a lifetime.

    Teen abortion kills an innocent life. You exist because your mother chose to give birth to you. Will you do the same for your child? Is an unborn child alive? Microbiology says so! Logic says so! The Bible says so! In fact, the Bible says you were knit together in your mother's womb and that God knew you before you were born (Psalms 139:13-14). Think hard before you have an abortion! Seek love and support during this difficult time!

    What are some post abortion symptoms?

    The effects of abortion on a society are numerous and post abortion symptoms are prevalent among the woman of our society. The abortion phenomenon has been victimizing women as well as the unborn. The tragedy lies in abortion clinics forgetting that a woman has a heart and a mind. The clinics ignore post abortion symptoms.

    Post abortion symptoms are numerous. One of them is post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). PTSD is a psychological disorder that affects individuals who have been involved in intense traumatic events such as torture, murder, rape, or war. Often PTSD includes frequently rehashing the event in the mind of the effected individual: nightmares, fatigue, irritability, nervousness, forgetfulness, and/or social withdraw.

    Sexual dysfunction is another post abortion symptom. This may consist of not gaining pleasure during intercourse, experiencing pain during intercourse, refraining from intercourse, avoiding any activity with men, or an increased sex-drive.

    Relationship problems often occur after an abortion. This is possibly due to sexual dysfunction, especially considering many women withdraw socially. Adding to relationship problems is the effect of another pregnancy among women who have opted or have been coerced into an abortion. The second pregnancy often leads to another abortion.

    Studies display several concerns regarding the effect of abortion on women. Clinical depression is prevalent among married women who have had an abortion. Suicidal thoughts are common among teenagers who have recently had an abortion. Eating disorders are widespread in post abortion symptoms for women of all ages.

    The suggestion that there is no correlation between these symptoms and women who have had abortions is outrageous. Medical journals have stepped out of their comfort zone and published articles that overcome the pro-choice rhetoric. Some have argued abortion as harmless; we now know abortion causes the death of a child and also creates a deeply wounded woman.

    Teen abortion facts - What are the risks?

    There are many risks involved with teen abortion. To begin with death can occur because of teen abortion. It is reported that legal abortion is the fifth leading cause of maternal death in the United States. These deaths are caused by infection, embolism, hemorrhage, anesthesia, and undiagnosed ectopic pregnancies. The actual figure of deaths caused by legal abortion is probably much higher than reported since many of the maternal deaths reported are not recorded as being caused by legal abortion.

    Teen abortion facts also report that the risk of breast cancer almost doubles if an abortion is performed on a first pregnancy during the first trimester of the pregnancy. The risk of cervical cancer also increases with the number of abortions the woman has undergone. The risk jumps from 2.3 to 4.92 in women who have had more than one abortion. It is thought that the unnatural disruptions in the woman's hormonal balances caused by the abortion, contributes to the increase risk for cervical cancer.

    Teen abortion facts also report an increase in uterine perforations and cervical lacerations. It is estimated that 2-3% of all women who undergo an abortion experience uterine perforation. However, the injuries frequently go undiagnosed because it requires a laparoscopic visualization to find the perforations. Uterine perforations can result in complications during pregnancy and/or other problems that may require a hysterectomy. Cervical lacerations that occur in about 1% of abortions can result in complications during pregnancy, premature birth, and/or the inability to conceive.

    Teen abortion facts also report a ten to fifteen fold increase in the risk of placenta previa, a life-threatening complication during pregnancy that threatens the life of the mother as well as the infant she carries. In addition, abortion is regarded as increasing the risk of future etopic pregnancies, a life-threatening condition that can, in turn, decrease a women's fertility.

    Other teen abortion facts about the risks of abortion include such complications as pelvic inflammatory disease, excessive bleeding, infection, convulsions, endotoxic shock, fever, hemorrhage, chronic abdominal pain, vomiting, and gastrointestinal disturbances.

    All in all, teen abortion facts report that teens are at a much higher risk for these life-threatening complications and long-term reproductive problems.

    What are the facts on the partial birth abortion statistics?

    The partial-birth abortion ban is a hotly contested current political, legal, and cultural issue. The US Congress passed the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act (H.R. 760, S. 3) by a wide margin in October 2003 and it was signed into law by President Bush in November. Within hours of becoming law, judges in New York City, San Francisco, and Lincoln Nebraska blocked it from taking force. The ban has yet to be enforced pending legal challenges.

    The Justice Department made it clear that it will fight for the federal ban. President Bush stated, "We will continue to defend the law to protect new innocent life" and "affirm a basic standard of humanity, the duty of the strong to protect the weak." Previously, more than 30 states had passed partial-birth abortion ban laws that were subsequently struck down by the Supreme Court in a narrow 5 to 4 decision who disregarded what 30 state legislatures and two thirds of the American people believed was right. This is why the federal Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act was written and passed into law.

    The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act banned partial-birth abortions except when it is necessary to save the life of the mother and calls for a two-year jail term for violators. Pro-abortion supporters have argued that the government was determining the safest and best treatment for patients with no knowledge of the medical circumstances. Abortionists have also argued that "according to responsible opinion, there are times when the banned procedure is medically necessary."

    But in reality, as former Surgeon General C. Everett Koop and other eminent medical authorities told Congress: "Partial-birth abortion is never medically necessary to protect the mother's health or her future fertility. On the contrary, this procedure can pose a significant threat to both." Also, Jay Sekulow of the Center for Law and Justice said the "so-called health exception" is a false argument aimed at undermining a "law designed to end (a) horrific procedure."

    A partial-birth abortion is performed in the second or third trimester and entails inducing a breech delivery with forceps, delivering the legs, arms, and torso only, puncturing the back of the skull with a scissors or trochar, inserting a suction catheter into the skull, sucking out the contents of the skull so as to collapse it and completing the delivery by removing the collapsed skull.

    A January 2003 Gallop poll found that 70% favored a ban on partial-birth abortion with only 25% against it. If the partial-birth abortion procedure would be shown on prime time TV, the current 70% against it would likely climb up into the 90% range. Neither the public nor the women undergoing the procedure are fully exposed to the how horrific the procedure is and how much excruciating pain and suffering the unborn baby experiences.

    The pro-abortionists do not have consideration for the welfare of the unborn child in any of their arguments. They use false and unsubstantiated pregnancy health issues as a basis for "on demand" late term partial-birth abortions. The pro-life supporters consider both the mother and the unborn baby in their arguments.

    The National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League (NARAL) put out a statement commenting on the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. This act simply states that babies born alive are persons. The NARAL comments effectively sanction the killing of unwanted (by the mother) babies that survive an abortion attempt. Abortionists are now condoning infanticide.

  • 1 decade ago

    When abortion was first legalized we did not have the science available to the average person that could really inform and show the life cycle of an embryo. But now with microscopic cameras filming each embryo life cycle from within the mothers womb and access to the information at our fingertips through the internet with live images how can anyone continue to say that this is not a human life? There is truly no excuse. You would have to be blind not to see that this is a human life. Call abortion what it really is, a convenient method for women to not have to live with their mistakes. The following is a statistical quote from the Guttmacher Institute.

    On average, women give four reasons for choosing abortion. Three-fourths of women cite concern for or responsibility to other individuals; three-fourths say they cannot afford a child; three-fourths say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or the ability to care for dependents; and half say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner.[12]

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    1.) yes. 2 hearts, 2 brains = 2 people.

    2.) yes. It seems absurd to think a person is not a person until they emerge from the womb.

    3.) see #2

    4.) anyone who says that an unborn child is not a human being should take a biology course.

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    7.) the people who are elected by and for the people are entrusted to decide the issue of rights.

    If the baby's birth would threaten the life of the woman, a choice much be made. It's a disgusting horrible and sometimes terrifying experience which sometimes haunts the would-be mother for the rest of her life, but this is the real world.

    This is among the hardest of decisions any life loving human can make.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I agree with your points and as a mother of three sons something else troubles me...my sons will have to be a part of the conception of any child that they create. They have no rights to choose whether or not that child will live or die, it is all up to the mother, but if the mother decides to keep the child, they will be forced to financially support it. Why do we, as women, get to have all the power? What about the rights of the child AND the father? And you can't say anything to me about abortion and what it does to a person or about what having a child does to a person...I had an abortion at 15 and murdered my first child (before I was saved, but I still felt like it was murder) and several years later I was raped, became pregnant, and not only carried the child, but still have him and love him every day! The abortion was the most horrible thing I have ever gone through and I praise God that I will one day be able to ask for forgiveness from my child (who would now be about 19). My son is the greatest gift I have ever received in this life, second only to my salvation and I have never regretted my decision to keep him.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Actually, there is no contradiction, as it is really the same issue. Those states that have fetal homicide statutes on the books have done so in an attempt to weaken abortion access laws. This is generally regarded as a first step to eliminate the woman's right to choose, by starting to grant rights to the fetus. Once that is more fully established, then those states will get around Roe v Wade by claiming that the fetus has the same rights as an actual living human being, and thus it is no longer a privacy issue regarding simply the woman's body.

    You'll note, however, that none of these states has decided that citizens should get to drink at 20 years, 3 months, or vote at 17 years, 3 months. They don't really think a fetus is a human being (Why should they? It clearly isn't), they are just looking for a way to control women and sexual activity.

  • 1 decade ago

    11) Mainly because of the religious right meddling in the law trying to secure more 'rights' for a fetus.

    2) No. But they want it that way.

    3) No. Do I detect a leading argument here?

    4) A fetus is not a living human being like us. That is reality.

    7) What happened to 5 and 6? The same people who decide your and my rights. The people who make the laws and ammend the constitution as they (and hopefully the people who elected them) see fit.

    This is a fraught issue. Is an IUD that prevents pregnancy by not letting the fertilized egg embed abortion? If a clump of cells growing in a person has rights, then what of the rights of a parasite, or of a tumor? How is that clump of cells different?

    For a 8th month unborn baby then it is viable by itself, it has a fully formed nervous system and brain. Most people would agree that killing it would be unethical, either by abortion or by some form of violence to the mother.

    However, the problem comes when you have to decide at what point that mere clump of cells becomes that viable person. Obviously it is not at 1 week, or at 8 months, but at what point in between?

    Legally the current laws are based on the fetus' viability outside of the mother. Personally I would like to see the line drawn at the time when the nervous system and brain starts functioning, as I see that as what separates a person from a lump of flesh.

  • BLI
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    The reason a person would get charged for a double homicide is because the child is alive. A living being inside the mother.

    Apparently the child does have rights to live...or else it wouldn't be considered a "homicide" the unlawful murdering of another human being....against their will.

    Let's note that...(the whole against their will thing) Because it is.

    Just like it'd be against anyone's will to be murdered in any way at any time....(as is the case with homicide) it's the same for an unborn child who cannot yet speak.

    It doesn't matter who aborts the child...because abortion is murder no matter whose hand the knife is in.

    The parents decide the child's rights (any childs rights)

    at least until they are old enough to make proper and rational decisions on their own.

    Like when we'll cut his/her hair, if we'll pierce their ears.....

    And so on. These are common matters many parents deal with and decide for their children when they are not yet of age to make a decision regarding these things on their own.

    But-

    When it comes to making life-altering decisions....that is not left up to the parent because no one has the right to take the life of another.

    Since everyone here was "given" life before them..their Life that was given...is not their own.

    All life was made for God and intended to be used by him and for his Glory.

    So we have no right to take another's life...just like we have no right to take our own.

    And if the scripture says you were bought with a price...

    and Jesus died for the sins of the whole world....

    Then NO-ONE'S (saved or unsaved)....life belongs to them.

    Whether they believe it or not.

    Because whatever you yield your members to is your master....and you cannot serve God and mammon.

    This lets us know that we are with either one...or the other.

    We're not put here for ourselves.

    So I just mentioned that to say....

    Abortion is not anyone's rightful choice.

    It's wrong and it's murder.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    If a pregnant woman is murdered along with her unborn child, the court usually decides per case if it is decided as a double homicide or a single homicide, taking into account mainly the term of the pregnancy, as well as the intentions of the mother. This concept underscores the importance of a woman's right to choose; she and only she may terminate the pregnancy (or giver permission thereof)

    A terminated pregnancy is not the killing of a child until it is legally recognised as a child. In reality, a young foetus is no more a person than it is a collection of cells; like a sea-sponge or a tomato plant.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I certainly do not agree with abortion, because whether it is the mother or not, who has the right to take a human life? I don't think anyone has that right. There are special circumstances such as rape and things of that nature in which case, it is up to the victim, but other than those things, why should the life of a child be taken away when it was their fault they got pregnant in the first place? You have asked some very interested questions. I don't think anyone has the right to take someone elses life, whether it be your unborn child, or your born child.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The question is, When does life begin?

    I am 100% against abortion of any kind but it may be difficult for a country like the US to make a meaningful ruling against abortion; the life of a fetus may well be in the hands of the mother.

    A child in the womb may have no rights. It's a pity; but that's the way it is.

  • 1 decade ago

    TAKE THIS SITUATION INTO CONSIDERATION......... i feel that abortion is ONLY RIGHT in a situation that when if a young girl or any female in that matter got raped by someone who had AIDS then therefore the child would have AIDS then the child wouldn't ask to born with a life long disease (that might cost lots of money) but to just have an abortion because you made a wrong decision when you do grown up things expect grown up things to happen

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