Christianity/Spirituality & Christmas?

To all the Nay Sayers out there, I send a hearty BAH, HUMBUG to you all. Christmas is a day picked by man to honor the fact that a savior was born. The day is irrelevant, thr fact is, it was done, and continues to be done. As for gifts at Christmas, I agree that the commercialism has gotten well out of hand, but to give someone a gift out of love and kindness is just the thing that Christ did when he walked on earth. Unless, of course, you don't consider giving someone their sight, or healing their bodies, or even bringing someone back from the dead a gift. I give gifts for many reasons, Christmas being one of them. I gave my wife a set of diamonds earrings 2 weeks ago. WHY? Just because I love her! The day I give these gifts doesn't change the reason they are given. Christmas was intended to be a festive time of worship in which to "Make a joyful noise unto the Lord", and what is more joyful than the noise of children and adults laughing from happiness. I, personally have read my bible cover to cover 5 times so far, and each time I find new revalations in the word of God, but to date, I have yet to find anywhere that it is paganism tp worship Christ in any form, including celebrating the fact he was born to save us all from our own sinful ways. If you enjoy giving, then by all means give. If you have ungrateful people who refuse the gifts on Christmas, the give them for something else. At least the kids will know you love them even if the parents are being dumb and self-centered.

edit: BTW, what I got for the earrings was just as good. I got a hug thay nearly cracked a rib, and a very wet shoulder. Then I got another wet shoulder for the poem I presented to her that I wrote for the occassion of being in love with her.

Again, to those who want to find fault in love and gifts from the heart....Bah, Humbug!

You say you do not get into the materialism of christmas and yet you are upset because your family does want gifts???

It is fine to enjoy christmas or any thing else here on earth. If your heart is full of love that is what matters. At the end of this life you alone will go before god to be judged. Judgement day is a weighing of the heart, if the heart is full of love it will be lighter than a feather, when it is lighter than a feather back to fathers creation you go, if not lighter than a feather back here for another try.

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Sounds well to me. Now in my maturity and earlier than my marriage get a divorce, I could have a good time at the twenty fifth that is fashioned in England. However, my grandmother was once Austrian and it's/was once Austrian culture to supply Christmas items on Christmas Eve. If reminiscence serves that was once the day "Kristkindle" could come and that was once the large day while I was once developing up. In a small however accidental revert to historical household culture, transportation problems will hinder me from seeing my daughter on Christmas Day, nevertheless, she is coming over at the twenty third and will likely be recieving her offers from my aspect of the household on Christmas Eve.

You can never mixed up paganism and christianity all in one, and assume it for God. Paganism has always been an abomination before God.

You are aware that Christmas is of pagan origin. However, since anything that is of pagan is abomination to God, you cannot celebrate it to refer to God. Truth is - you are trying to MAKE God accept what you're doing. (And that's is very dangerous, dear).

BONUS: Christmas was fabricated by the catholic church and therefore, it is a feast meant only for Catholics. You said you're a "christian" so you should be expected not to partake in all these pagan activities? Well, unless you're one of them?

God bless...

GH

Why not do these things year round?

FACTS:

1- 25 Dec is not Jesus' birthday

2- Jesus, the disciples nor the earliest church for over three hundred years NEVER celebrated Jesus' birth

3- Jesus COMMANDS at least four times in Scripture to remember Him in obseervance of the Last Supper/Communion - NOT on His birthday (which no one even knows)

no, there is nothing wrong with enjoying the holiday. in your celebration keep God first.

Why not keep Elohim's Holy Days of Leviticus 23 instead?

I used to love Christmas as a Christian until my wife and I started to read the Bible, the entire Bible. Just some things to consider.

For all the Commandments YHVH gave to His chosen people and those (the stranger or gentile) who chose to join them, Christianity continues in idol worship instead.

The First Commandment states that YHVH is the Elohim of the children of Israel brought out of the land of Egypt. Christianity as a whole says God is no longer the Elohim of Israel but of the Christians.

The Second Commandment states that YHVH is a jealous God and in Exodus verse 20:6 states:

but showing lovingkindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Christianity says the (Torah) commandments no longer apply to His people.

The Third Commandment warns not to take Elohim's Name in vain. Christianity continues to call upon Him as "lord" which refers to the pagan god Baal.

Ba'al (baʕal;Arabic,بعل; Hebrew: בעל) (ordinarily spelled Baal in English) is a Northwest Semitic title and honorific meaning "master" or "lord" that is used for various gods who were patrons of cities in the Levant, cognate to Assyrian Bēlu. A Baalist means a worshipper of Baal-

Hosea 2:16 "And it will come about in that day," declares YHVH, "That you will call Me Ishi And will no longer call Me Baali.

Hosea 2:17 "For I will remove the names of the Baals from her mouth, So that they will be mentioned by their names no more.

Christianity chooses to use the Greek name "Jesus" instead of the Hebrew name of the Hebrew Messiah, Yeshua, meaning salvation.

Strong's - 3444. yeshuw'ah, yesh-oo'-aw; fem. pass. part. of H3467; something saved, i.e. (abstr.) deliverance; hence aid, victory, prosperity:--deliverance, health, help (-ing), salvation, save, saving (health), welfare

The Fourth Commandment is to keep the seventh day Sabbath Holy (set apart). Christianity teaches it is not necessary but to worship on the day of the Sun god.

The Fifth Commandment is to honor your father and mother. Abraham and Sarah are the father and mother of the covenant people of YHVH. Christianity rarely acknowledges this.

As for the Appointed times or Holy Days of YHVH in Leviticus 23, modern Christianity will not have anything to do with them.

Christianity chooses Easter, goddess of fertility, instead of The Passover and to eat the Easter ham which is an abomination to YHVH.

As for Christmas (pagan god Tammuz worship), the observance is found nowhere in Elohim's commandments, from the apostles, disciples or to even remember The Messiah in His birth. We are to proclaim His death til He comes.

1 Cor 11:24 and when He had given thanks, He broke it, and said, "This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me."

1 Cor 11:25 In the same way He took the cup also, after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

1 Cor 11:26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim The Messiah's death until He comes

There is absolutely no greater joy than to worship The Elohim of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in Spirit and in Truth.

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*Bump* Oh! I'm awake again. I fell asleep trying to read this fluff.