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Islam: Are these the words of Isa? Are they in Quran?

"I tell you the truth, I am the gate for the sheep. All who ever came before me were thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not listen to them. I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. He will come in and go out, and find pasture. The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full."

Are these the words of a Prophet?

Update:

My people have held these words sacred for two thousand years. If the Prophet compares himself to a gate, what harm in comparing people to sheep?

Update 2:

I am searching for what Isa said as a Prophet. Is there prophesy here, or must I keep looking. He promises full life but I see no reason for him to say that in these verses.

Update 3:

Why is everyone so hesitant to talk about Isa? There must be something he said or did to be called a prophet. What is it about him besides he was not a god, we didn't die, he said good things? What did he say? Where are his words?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    you can differentiat human writings and the words of almighty GOD,

  • This is taken from Bible and Bible is Interpreted as much as more then 3500 version every one has his own ideas and Thoughts,

    if you Read Quran there is Nothing like that.Quran Doesnt says Anything like that about Humen

    He has Created the Humen the Perfect among all the creation.

    so Why will A Prophet Symbolize His Fellows as Sheep.

  • 1 decade ago

    These may be the words of Prophet Isa (Jesus) peace be upon him... if so they are true. It is not in the Holy Quran but as long as it does not contradict the Quran than it is true.

    Just to clarify, Muslims must believe in Jesus to be Muslims. You must also realize that translation from Arabic to English has destroyed the meaning of Nabi or Rasool into Prophet. Isa is al-Massie (The Massiah) and Rooh-Allah (The Soul of God) in Islam. He is also Rasoolulllah (Messenger of God). Christians think Islam belittles Jesus by calling him just a Prophet. That is a serious misunderstanding of Islam's view of Jesus. Jesus is one of the highest ranking creations of Allah. The Quran says that Jesus was illustrious in the world and will be illustrious in the here-after.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Holy Qura'n never takes any symbolic meaning of words, like sheep, The human being is the most respected creature with the best stature, so Holy Qura'n never calls humans as Sheep.

    Holy Prophet Muhammad pbuh and all other Prophets in the past with their followers are human being, none of them is taken as god or son of god.

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  • 1 decade ago

    I don't think so. Let Muslim scholars explain that.

  • 1 decade ago

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    Dear Brothers and Sisters,

    Some Christians have told me that Jesus has turned their life around, in that they were once lost, now they are found. In that they were drunkards, drug users, abusers, and that Jesus has made them change their wicked ways.

    That is Wonderful, this is similar to Prophet Muhammad ending the evil practices of burying newborn girls alive besides other vices for many from the past to the present.

    For the Christians who Strive to be like Christ and try to live a righteous life, that is great. Though there is another group of Christians, the _kind_ who use Jesus as a scapegoat, an excuse to do evil. The Christians who *assume* Jesus bore all of their sins and that they are free to sin [indiscriminately].

    Those Christians have obviously not reflected upon Scripture. Jesus himself repeatedly states that we are accountable for our own actions.

    Then there are the third type of Christians, the Christians who know Jesus, though their impulses to be unrighteous are too strong, and they submit to the temptations to drink alcohol, use drugs, and commit adultery, and even worse.

    For everyone who is confused about the Trinity and who want to achieve a higher level of Spirituality, this is an invitation for you to know Allah , who is Allah ?

    In Aramayic, the original language of Christ, Jesus called God "Alayho"

    Moses in Hebrew called God "Elih"

    Muhammad in Arabic called God "Allah"

    Allah is the God of Abraham, our Creator, our Resurrector.

    Allah is the Arabic name for God as in the Christian Arabic Bible, verses (Genesis 1:1 , John 3:16 , Luke 1:30 , Luke 3:38 , Matthew 19:17 .....) , the name "Allah" is used to mean God.

    I am not asking you to switch Gods , I am asking you to know our God more , Love our God more , Respect our God more .

    Not split and fractionalize our God up into three , or make various contradictory statues of God.

    Allah can give you the added strength and the Faith you need to be on the Right Path, how do you know Allah ? We know, hear and reflect on Allah through the Holy Quran and through prayers.

    "And they worship besides Allah things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah". Say: " Do you inform Allah of that which He knows not in the heavens and on the earth"? Glorified and Exalted is He above all that which they associate as partners with Him." (Holy Quran 10:18)

    In my experiences, Allah is Greater in saving us from the addictions of this world, and helps to heal the past wounds, Through giving us additional Hope and Faith, if you love Jesus, that is great, you can continue to Love Jesus, but worship the Creator of Jesus, Allah .

    Allah gives us bountiful knowledge and spiritual guidance in the Holy Quran, the Final Testament.

    In the Quran, you can know God directly without any intercessors or middle men filtering from you the power, strength and connection with God.

    God loves you, God is the most forgiving and most merciful. Christianity claims God did not forgive the actions of Adam for millenniums , while Islam teaches Adam was forgiven the same moment Adam repented, and that death is a natural cycle , not a prolonged curse from our Loving God .

    Believe in a Loving God of Abraham , one who does not need blood to forgive , one who Judges each individual fairly.

    Believe our God is All Powerful , who sees and knows all of our Actions.

    The tithing taking Church has conceived the notion that Jesus is the only Savior, but Jesus himself, the Servant of Allah, displayed with his words and actions for those who seek knowledge, that he was a sign from the true Savior, Allah.

    Jesus *warns* of entire nations falling into Hell (Mt 23:33-36), Allah *saves* entire nations from Hell. (Holy Qur'an 12:110)

    Allah Protects His apostles,

    "So Allah protected him from the evil (consequences) of what they planned" (Holy Koran 40:45)

    " So naught was the answer of (Abraham's) people except that they said: "Slay him or burn him." But Allah did save him from the Fire. Verily in this are Signs for people who believe." (Holy Koran 29:24)

    Jesus gives No protection to his apostles; Jesus afraid people may discover him says;

    "He [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], But whom say ye that I am? Peter answering said, The Christ of God. And he straightly charged them, and commanded them to tell no man that thing." (Luke 9:20 and 21)

    Jesus, to even further clarify for us that he is not our Savior, infront of the crowd, asked Allah to Save him

    "And he [Jesus] said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible to thee; remove this cup from me; yet not what I will, but what thou wilt." ("Mark 14:36)

    Jesus asked our Creator to be his Savior from death, symbolized as "this cup" in Mark 14, undisputedly revealing that Jesus can not be our Savior if he himself prayed for a Savior.

    even Jesus's disciples knew Jesus does not protect or save, when mere men (soldiers) arrested Jesus, the disciples decided to abandon Jesus and not seek protection in Jesus;

    " Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled." (Matthew 26:56)

    While Prophet Muhammad (descendant of Prophet Abraham) knows Allah saves;

    Muhammad was sitting under a tree when a pagan with a sword approached him to kill him, the pagan asked 'who will protect you', Muhammad replied "Allah", at this moment, the pagan lunged forward at Prophet Muhammad tripped on a stump and dropped the sword which Muhammad picked up and gave it back to the pagan and asked the pagan, "who would have protected you", the pagan replied 'no, one', from that day on, the pagan became a Muslim and one of Prophet Muhammad's closest companions. (Volume 5, Book 59, Number 460: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah)

    To Save is also to preserve , the God of Abraham has preserved the final and completed message to us , the Holy Quran . The Holy Quran has been kept the same word for word for 1,400 years , while each month a different Bible is produced .

    Finally we come to Salvation in the After life, above we have addressed Salvation on earth, now we will focus on who will save us in the next world.

    Whether or not you agree that Allah is our Savior, this will perhaps explain why we Muslims take Allah as our Savior rather than Jesus, so at the very least you understand the thinking behind the actions of the second largest religion in the world and the fastest growing religion in the world "Islam"

    One reason we believe Allah is our Savior and not Jesus, is because Jesus throughout the entire New Testament , never stated "I am your savior" or "I will save you from Hell". While on the other hand, Allah throughout the Old Testament and the Final Testament (The Holy Quran), stated we will be saved from Hell through the Grace of Allah.

    In fact, Jesus even denied being our Savior;

    NEW TESTAMENT

    " Not every one who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter

    the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father

    who is in heaven . " Matthew 7:21

    "And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone." [Mr 10:18]

    " I have come to cast a fire on the earth; and what will I

    if already it has been kindled? " Luke 12:49

    If Jesus was our Savior, then at the very least, Jesus would know when the day of resurrection was, yet Jesus plainly denies this;

    "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in

    heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." [Mr 13:32]

    While the Creator of Jesus, the God of Abraham in the Old Testament and the Quran offers us absolute Salvation:

    OLD TESTAMENT

    "For I am the Lord, your God, the Holy One of Israel, your SAVIOR....It is I, the Lord; there is NO SAVIOR BUT ME..." (Old Testament Isaiah 43:3 &11)

    "You shall know that I, the Lord am your SAVIOR, your REDEEMER, the mighty one of Jacob." (Old Testament Isaiah 60:16)

    FINAL TESTAMENT (HOLY QURAN)

    "But Allah will deliver the righteous to their place of salvation: no evil shall touch them, nor shall they grieve." (Holy Quran 39:61)

    "For those who believe and do righteous deeds, will be Gardens; beneath which rivers flow: That is the great Salvation" (Holy Quran 85:11)

    "As for those who repent, reform, and proclaim, I redeem them. I am the Redeemer, Most Merciful." (Holy Quran 2:160.15)

    Now you have Allah who states He will save you, and you have Jesus who states he will not save you, who would you take as a Savior ?

    Allah Saves, through my daily reading and searching through the Gospel, not once have I found a verse where Jesus states he will save us from the Fire, while it is abundant in the Holy Quran that Allah has the Power to save us from Hell:

    "And hold fast, All together, by the Rope Which Allah (stretches out For you), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favour on you; for ye were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace, Ye became brethren; and ye were on the brink of the Pit of Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus doth Allah make His Signs clear to you: That ye may be guided." {Translation of the Holy Qur'an 3:103}

    This is one of the reasons that Muslims declare Allah is our Savior, study Islam with an open mind and heart, learn what Allah can do for your soul.

    "They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah." (Holy Quran 2:135).

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