Christians: another "If your god can do anything" question...?

first of all, Christians don't believe that humans are destined for damnation. we believe that god created us with free will because it gives us the option of choosing happiness, which makes it that much better. anyone who is damned is damned because he chose to reject god--it's just another way in which our free will is shown.

Jesus died because the guilt of our sin would have made us damned if he hadn't died for us.

god didn't make us damned. we became that way because of adam's original sin, which he was able to commit because of god's gift of free will.

saying that god should have made us with free will but without the possibility of rejecting him and going to hell is a contradiction, and it isn't really free will.

we always have a choice.

hope that cleared it up.

Even if you do not believe it read the bible so you can understand what it is you are actually arguing.

God did not damn us to hell; there was a fallen angel...namely Satan; who ticked God off when he had Eve eat the apple. Man deserved punishment, and it was given. Free will consists of making our own choices...it was not God's choice that we became wicked or followed Satan, but we did none the less. He is a jealous God. He sent Jesus to die on the cross for the forgivness of sins so that who ever believed could be saved from Satan. He put the rainbow in place so that no matter how bad he wanted to flood the earth again because of the wickedness he would be reminded not to do so. To this day people don't believe, and magnificently God will come back and put us in our rightful spots pending on what we sowed on earth. There is no contradiction...just failure to understand which is why all the christians say read the bible. To understand you'd have to see it through anothers eyes.

Quite interesting questions

Okay lets start with the idea God can do anything,This is not true .He cant do anything that causes a paradox.For examle

he can not make a log thats to heavy for him to lift. He can not

do anything that would contridict his nature.Thus good can not

be evil becuse its his nature to be good,This would also

create a pradox.

Okay lets get to the second question.Why cant god give us free will that will not cause us to be sent to hell, This causes

a paradox.If we have 100 percent free but must choose

a path that will not lead to hell than its really not free will at all

We already established God does not create paradoxes

so this option is not possible..Then we have the option

God just make us so we dont sin. This will just make

us robots.The last option is that he give us enough free

will to let us make certain decison but not sin.Once agin we would be pretty much robots becuse we would still pretty much robots.If do thing becuse God makes us rather

than because want to than we cant say we honestly love

him which is the purpose of giving us free will which

is to choose to love or not love him

On the last part you are a bit right.First God does not send

us to Hell .We do so by not accepting God and his forgiveness.At this point let me define hell.Hell is

eternal seperation from God which mwy include punishment

So when we are codenm to hell we are codenm to

be sperated from God forever.Thoose who are condemn chooseto be seperated from God compared to being

enternal punish.Choosing to be punish forever would kind

of be silly.Second why would God make us be in a place

we do not want to be.Thus people in hell do not want to be

with God so it would be cruel to make them do so.Second

if we do whatever we want without being punish than

God can not be just right.

God doesnt want us to go to hell so he sent his son

to die for us.Think of this way.Suppose you stole something

The judge send you to prison but before the balif comes

the Judges son comes and says he will do your time

if you want him too,The judge being kinds agrees to

the conditions becuse he cares about you .Its the same concept

I hope that answers your question.

We can not know all there is to know about God. What most Christians try to do is to have a spiritual connection with something that we cannot explain. A good book to read by a Jewish author is "The little book of Miracles," by Yitta Halberstam and Judith Leventhal. It takes Jesus out of the equation and concentrates on how God works in the "everyday" person's life. Sometimes coincidences happen that are impossible, and you have to believe there is something larger than you out there. Inner peace is the goal, not anger.

Did you notice how you worded the question? You asked it as though you were God making the choices on how creation should be created.

He created mankind with a 'free will' according to how His interpretation of a 'free will' works not yours. If he created man with a free will then began putting parameters on it where do these parameters stop and does not these interjections into a 'free will' then mean man DOES NOT have a free will but has become God's robots? I think He knew exactly how to create mankind.

As I recall - God did create us with free will and not destined to be damned to hell. Then we took our free will and made a break for hell anyway.

Even though he gave us life, and love and liberty and free will, we still traded it in for something horrible. We said, "Yeah, thanks for eternal life in paradise and Eden and a purpose and all this cool stuff, but we'd rather hang with Satan, Your arch-enemy." Even after we completely rejected this amazing gift, God still thought enough of us to want us back with him, so He invented a way to make that happen.

It isn't a contradiction. It is just how the story went.

You can love somebody a whole lot, think all year about what to get them for a birthday gift, save up to buy or make it, wrap it beautifully and give it to them on their birthday. They open it up, turn up their nose, ask if you have the receipt, turn around and trade it in for a pilly, old, skanky, nasty, holey sweater from a thrift shop. Thumb their nose at you and say "You got me THIS for my birthday?" It's like that. You still love them, the gift was still perfect. But the recipient chose something yucky instead.

He created you, and you have the free will to choose to receive a Gift from Him giving you eternal life to do and explore all that there is. You also have the free will to reject the Gift and end up separated from Him forever. Is that not perfection regarding free will?

Quick definitions (saved)

# adjective: rescued; especially from the power and consequences of sin

god wants use to make the right desicion that way we learn bettter.god gave use the will 2 choose from right & wrong.hell i a punishment fro those who a not srry 4 their sins,so the choice is yours,i think of hell as a time out. 0-o

I personally don't think its not that God couldn't do it, maybe He just didn't want to. God has his own personality and reason for doing things just like any human being of free will. Hence, doesn't God have free will too?

God and his relationships to us can be just as complex any interpersonal relationship!

I agree......basically everyone does NOT KNOW....and they are afraid to admit ...that they do not know....I do believe somethings are beyond anyone's power...like children dying from cancer or worse yet AIDS...i mean no one is able to help them...doctors can give them pain relief but they will not heal..and it is very sad....They just pray for peace in a time like that....that is all one can do...Most Christians realize God cannot stop some things from happening...it is just the way it is...sorry!!!