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LT's TD late in the game.......Had his foward progress not been stopped already?
LT jumped over the pile on a 4th and goal yesterday to give the Chargers a 2 score lead. Anybody that saw the play could you please tell me why the officials did not rule his "forward progress" had been stopped? After his initial surge over the pile he was pushed back, and simply, his progress had been stopped.
I gaurantee that if LT would have fumbled the ball while he was sitting on the pile at the 1 yard line the officials would have ruled him down because his forward progress had been stopped.
Fisher challenged the play and the Head Ref looked at the replay about 2 seconds and didn't even consider changing it. From what I saw it was easy to see that LT was stopped and then after he was stopped just put the ball over the line. I think the officials blew it. ANYBODY WHO SAW IT, PLEASE COMMENT!!!
People are misunderstanding me here. I believe that it was a no doubt TD if you give him his second effort. What I believe is that the play should have been blown dead when he was pushed backwards and had reached a stopped position. If anybody doesnt know, the rule states once your forward progress stops and you no longer are fighting for extra then the play stops. LT jumped, was stopped, looked over and seen no TD signal was given, and then reached the ball over the goal line. Play should have been blown dead.
18 Answers
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
His forward progress had been stopped. But no whistle had been blown. So the play continues. You are correct in what you saw.
- 1 decade ago
I understand why a lot of people think that his foward progress stopped, but there are always plays like that where a player gets the first down or touchdown by his second effort or third effort. I think it was just a second effort that happened to in the Charges favor. And it isn't like he got stuffed and got gang tackled back 3 or 4 yards. LT counldn't have gotten any closer to the goal line.
- Oh Yea Its AfLv 51 decade ago
Unfortunately, "foward progress" is one of those on-the-spot judgement calls. Even though it's reviewable, it's almost impossible to overturn once the call has been made (in favor or not in favor). Remember the Edgerrin James fumble versus the Bears? I thought his foward progress was stopped but Urlacher reached in and ripped the ball out and it led to a score.
When the ref made the call after the review, he mentioned the words "2nd effort" which I guess implies you're "allowed" a second effort at gaining yardage. I'm pretty sure that's not written in any rule books but it's sorta like the old (not used anymore) "you must make a football move" rule after catching a ball. It sounds ridiculous but that's the call.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
He was stopped dead in his tracks and did not make it. The whistle never blew and Tennessee's defense should have kept driving him backwards until it did.
This was a case of the ref's wanting to be 100% sure that LT's progress had been stopped before they blew the whistle. That alone allowed LT to lunge the ball forward thenafter.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
If it was stopped he wouldn't have jumped forward again for the TD. He got the ball over the endzone. He was still fighting for more yardage. Therefore there is no way they should have blown the play dead.
I agree with the guy who said he wasn't in the grasp of a defender while he was "stopped". You can't rule a guy down because the hole didn't open up initially. Half of Barry Sanders runs would have been ruled down. Besides Chicago gets most of their fumbles when the guy is clearly moving backwards.
- 1 decade ago
I was at the game and from the 25 yard line on the opposite end of the field, it sure looked like he crossed the plane.
But seriously, had the Titans lost by seven this might be an interesting question. But they lost by 11 and sucked in the red zone.
I'd just start looking forward to next year.
If you're looking for a team to follow for the rest of the year, I hear there's plenty of room on the Patriots bandwagon.
- 1 decade ago
No one had LT in their grasp. He had leaped over the pile and hit the defender who came up from the defensive line to stop him. LT then slipped back down to the pile, looked to his right to see if he got across the line and, when he saw he hadn't, he stretched his arms out to put the ball over the line.
LT was never down and never in anyone's grasp. So, his forward progress hadn't been stopped when he extended the ball over the goal line. That's why there was no whistle until after he scored the touchdown.
- 1 decade ago
Yes his initial progress was stopped. But when he landed, he came down right on his feet, so he is not down, the play is still live. On his 2nd attempt, he leaned forward and stretched out and broke the plane with the ball. He was still up, and it was perfectly legal.
- Dah veedLv 51 decade ago
I wondered about that too. No way to change it now. Sometimes the refs are just too much involved. I think it could have gone either way in that situation. If it had been my team and it was the winning touchdown I wouldn't be complaining, but I can see the argument from the Titans side. Sometimes it just happens that way.
- Terrence WLv 61 decade ago
I really don't know why they didn't whistle it dead. His forward progress was clearly stopped, but the refs have been bad with whistles all year. Every time a qb gets hit they blow the whistle way to early. They stop the play before he even hits the ground, but L.T. had another effort that you rarely ever see. Good play by L.t. bad oficiating though if you ask me.