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20 people stranded on a deserted island - How to deal with the situation?
20 people get stranded on a deserted island.
10 of these people also carries enough grain to grow crops sufficient for all of them.
If used wisely the grain and the other resources discovered on the island is enough to give all of them all they need to survive and live fullfilled lives for as long as needed (but without excessive luxury though).
If used unwisely, they could share the destiny of the Eastern Islands ancient society (link: http://www.primitivism.com/easter-island.htm)
What do you think would be the most fair way for them to share the resources and solve the situation?
If any of them started to pollute the drinking water on the island, or using the resources unwisely, what do you think the others should do/have the right to do to protect their own future? Or could this person polluting just refer to "individual rights" and continue to destroy their chances for a good future?
Our planet is in a way a deserted lonely island and most of us in the rich world is responsible for most of the greenhouse gas emissions and pollution (even if the products are produced in third world countries we're the ones buying them). We are also using much more than our share of the resources and hence destroying the future for all. So how should we deal with that? What is fair?
Edit for John M:
Would that "silly housewife" be me????
Just for your information I am an IT consultant working within the car industry (Volvo) so I'm quite comfortable and capable of working together with men.
Also, when mentioning Volvo they are well aware of the challenge climate change is for our future (and of course for the car industry). Their latest environmental prize is a sign of that: http://www.environment-prize.com/index_part2.e
One final point: You don't have to be "silly" to be a housewife!
But it's definitely "silly" to behave like you do!
Dr Jello:
I agree capitalism works as long as we stay within our (environmental) limits. Today, we are NOT and we have to find ways to include sustainability concerns into capitalism to make it work. We cannot continue to drain the earth on its resources.
evans_michael_ya: Your opinion is horrible, but I like your "source" LOL.
Larry: I feel I missed the target with this question (about pollution and over use of resources) but believe it or not, I agree with you. The question is what would be fair to do with those that for some reason really can't work (like children, elderly and sick). Are you just going to let them die off to give you more?
7 Answers
- LarryLv 41 decade agoFavorite Answer
If I had no grain, I would hunt and fish and possibly trade the fruits of my labor for some grain. If I had grain, I would still hunt, fish and I would share the grain as long as they were willing to help farm or had something to offer in exchange. It would be great if everyone would work together and contribute equally, but we both know some people will be lazy and allow others to do the work and expect to be taken care of.
- RichardLv 71 decade ago
They kill everyone who doesn't add to society, if the group decided that a person is a drain the resourced that person dies. If the group decides that a person will hurt the group that person dies, and the "group" will be made up the the strongest and most ruthless. Everyone else will do as the group commands submit to whatever the group decides or else. That's what would really happen, they wouldn't play nice and share and share alike. There wouldn't be any rights, individual or otherwise. Sorry to pop your nice little bubble but 99.9999999% of the time that's what's going to happen.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
just like some silly housewife to think SHE knows what wise use of commodities is. capitalism will fix the problems, missy, but leave it to the men who know how it works. then you can sit at your computer that capitalists built, in your home that capitalists built, eating food that capitalists grew, wearing clothes that capitalists made, and you can whine about capitalism. or, you can go to some third world country, where socialism is the way, and you can live in a hut without electricty, and no food, and no clothes, and wait for the evil capitalist americans to come and give you stuff.
having a job does not stop you from being a silly housewife. where do you get the logical connection that working in the same building as men is the same thing as understanding capitalism?
no one is draining the planet's natural resources, except the socialist third world countries. any product that capitalists are allowed to make a profit from, will never be in short supply. there is no shortage of swine and cattle, you silly socialists keep putting animals on endangered lists, but that doesn't save them. if there are not enough polar bears in the world, let capitalists exploit them in some manner, and you will soon have an abundance of polar bears. also, there is no shortage of crude oil, and there never will be. it is NOT a fossil fuel, it is not made from dinosaurs. it is currently being manufactured by the planet. have you ever been in a forest? where are all the dead animals waiting to be covered by dirt and turn into oil? it doesn't happen. dead animals get eaten immediately by vermin. have you ever seen a dinosaur fossil dig? i have, not a drop of oil anywhere close
- evans_michael_yaLv 61 decade ago
I agree with Richard and others (without the sexism). If I were a member of this group, I'd partner with 1 or 2 of the more ambitious survivors and we'd rule by force. First we'd eliminate anyone who posed a threat while they slept. Then we'd pick one of the less useful members of the group (like an elder) and stage a public execution. Everyone would get as little or as much as we three saw fit...but I guarantee you it would be less than our share...
If we're going to be socialists about it....I'll be Stalin. I don't care about anyone's "share" but my own. Open and free trade are as "fair" as you'll get from me.
If all of my efforts are to be split among the group: I keep a lot more of my efforts in a group of 10 than I do a group of 20.
Source(s): A silly house-husband and stay-at-home-dad - How do you think about the answers? You can sign in to vote the answer.
- Dr JelloLv 71 decade ago
To insure that all have enough, Capitalism would be the only choice. Protect individual rights, and protect private property.
History has shown that where Capitalism exist, there is prosperity for all.
No one has the "right" to degrade others property or value of the property. If your property has been harmed, bring a lawsuit against those that caused you harm to recoup the value of what you lost.
However, you have not been harmed by global warming. You have not been effected by any one else. If you had, you would have brought the offending party to court.
You just want to control the actions of others. It's 1920's Europe all over again.
