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Anonymous asked in Society & CultureReligion & Spirituality · 1 decade ago

Religion? Islam?

We have a lot of this on here and we hear a lot of crap but i have a problem with muslims and islam.

My question is, if allah is so peaceful and benevolent and just, why are most muslim countries up to their ears in ****, involved in wars, droughts and infighting with the polulation heading to the UK among others to leave it all behind and then want the same problem causing laws and ways of their old countries to be enforced in their new homelands which as history clearly shows will result in new homelands turning into old homelands.

Why can they not see this startlingly obvious truth?

Update:

so what do you hope to gain by praying to allah then, if he doesn't protect your life and homeland?

Update 2:

i like seekers answer, pasted but still valid and worth a read

Update 3:

and while i'm having my monthly rant.

Why do (some) leaders get followers to blow themselves up in the name of allah to become a martyr?

If it was that good they'd do it themselves instead of sending lambs to the slaughter so i think-

Either martyrdom is a false lie or the leaders that are doing this dont have the faith and / or beliefs to do it themselves.

There is also the chance that they are just spineless cowards that preach their **** for their own benefit

Update 4:

Fine, human choice.

I'm a human and along with the choice of the majority of my fellow countrymen and women (as in UK we respect women as people),

We choose to dislike the invasion of our country by muslims, extremist or not and choose to find a way to gain back control of our homeland and remove all those that try to take it from us.

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  • Seeker
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago
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    Those cynical powermongers who snatch the reins of power usually do so through some means of mass appeal or control, such as: patriotism, provincialism, racism, and/or religion. Religion is particularly effective because adherents are already conditioned to dogma. Despotic cynics know a good thing when they see it. As Adolf Hitler said, “How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don’t think.”

    Powermongers do not think or act religiously. It means nothing to them to send brainwashed lambs to slaughter. It's not about Allah . . . it's about power.

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    I've recently finished reading the Qur’an. The Qur’an doesn’t hold a candle to the Bible for literary value; that's for sure!

    The central theme or message (by word-count) is an obsession with believers, non-believers, unbelievers, disbelievers, misbelievers and ex-believers. There doesn’t appear to be a single page that doesn’t exhort believers to believe or disparage non-believers for not believing. It’s truly unrelenting! If you were to remove all the text exhorting believers and threatening disbelievers, there wouldn’t be much left of the Qur’an.

    As the second-largest religion in the world, I anticipated that Islam’s Qur’an would be a great book, like the Bible. But instead of a great literary epic, it’s more like a nagging father preaching the same limited things over and over and over . . . I waited for SOMETHING of spiritual value, something transcendent or inspiring, but found nothing noteworthy. Instead of the “religion of peace” I keep hearing about, the Qur’an paints a religion of submission and dominance. It seems neurotically and unapologetically insecure because of its obsession with believers versus non-believers.

    The extremity of violence in the Qur’an doesn’t really exceed that found in the Torah (Old Testament) but violence is emphasized a whole lot more; taking up a higher percentage of text.

    Muhammad repeatedly retells the stories of Noah, Abraham, Lot, Moses and Jesus (among others), giving those stories his own interpretation. It’s interesting how crudely he synopsizes the stories: it’s as if he’s retelling, from memory, stories that he’s heard – NOT stories that he’s studied and can easily reference from a Bible sitting on his table. The assertion that Muhammad was illiterate seems plausible to me, based on the crudeness of the writing in the Qur’an. I’m told the Qur’an is supposed to be heard, out loud, in Arabic. The recitation is allegedly rhythmic and music to the ears. Maybe so . . . but the contents of the words is what matters to me; they’re pedestrian and uninspired, at best.

    Some claim that Muhammad was illiterate but wrote the Qur'an via divine inspiration or divine writing. Historians say that Muhammad's followers recorded his every move and every word. Long after Muhammad was dead, these writings were collected (along with oral tradition?) and assembled into the Qur'an. Even if Muhammad did not personally write those crudely paraphrased biblical stories, they are allegedly his words recorded by his followers.

    According to the Qur’an, as followers of Abraham, Jews and Christians are “People of the Book”. They are relatively lucky: as Muslims wage Jihad on the world, the conquered subjects are forced to convert to Islam or die unless they’re People of the Book. These lucky souls get an exemption but must pay dearly for it . . . with their liberties and their pocketbooks. It’s interesting to note – and very telling – that ex-Muslims are the most cursed of all people. Apostasy earns you the death penalty; a sentence that’s still carried out to this very day, particularly if you’re public about it. Many ex-Muslims, for fear of execution, are currently living in hiding; exiled to more tolerant countries where they can live anonymously. How’s that for a “peaceful” religion? Ridiculous! Sounds more like the mafia and the FBI’s Witness Protection Program to me!

    The death sentence for apostasy is indicative of the neurotically insecure preaching of the Qur’an. The Qur’an actively encourages and enforces fundamentalism at every opportunity. The Qur’an is “obvious truth” and disbelievers are willfully mocking Allah. Believers need to keep away from disbelievers for fear of being led astray. Only believers have the truth and the rest are following obvious lies.

    To me, a sure sign of religious fundamentalism is ridiculously ignorant arguments in defense of one's religion. The new Creation Museum, in Kentucky, is a Christian example. On Yahoo answers, I read postings from Muslims that are obviously rehashed Islamic propaganda. Stupid stuff like: Muhammad knew about quantum physics (it’s in the Qur’an!) and evolution is proof of Allah’s grand design, etc. The arguments ignore large bodies of contradictory evidence and common sense. And forget about disputing anything they say . . . they’ll just quote scripture and brand you as a disbeliever who will eventually suffer Allah’s wrath.

    In the Qur’an, Muhammad frequently boasts of cities that disbelieved and met with grievous woe at the hands of Muhammad’s marauders. It’s a sign of Allah’s greatness that the cities were laid low. I’ve often heard that Islam is a religion of peace. Yes, there are verses that indicate the use of violence should be reserved for self-defense . . . but there’s much more which clearly indicate that being non-Muslim is all the excuse Muslims need to bring you glad tidings of grievous woe. That phrase, “glad tidings of grievous woe”, and its variants, crop up frequently in the Qur’an. It cracks me up every time. LOL, it’s my new catch-phrase.

    Something else that really struck me while reading the Qur’an is how Jihad is integral to Islam. The Islamist extremists and Jihadis are actually practicing what the Qur’an preaches. I’ve heard that there’s no such thing as moderate Muslims and I think that’s true because any Muslim worth his salt has to sympathize with militant Muslims, based solely on their commitment to Islamic Jihad. After all, Muhammad himself brought Allah’s wrath to his fellow Arabs – why not follow his example with non-Arabs?

    Take a look at what’s been happening in the world. Over the last century, Islam has spread to many countries. Fifty countries now have Muslim majorities. Everywhere they’ve spread, violence has followed. Their modus operandi is to populate an area then agitate, militate, and terrorize the region while demanding autonomy or outright rule. They organize and entrench so successfully that they always seem to get their way. Part of this strategy is to turn tolerance on it’s head. If you speak out or criticize Islam or Muslims, it’s your fault that you are killed for it. The world has learned that nothing is more effective than Muslim threats. The “free” press, for the most part (especially Europe), has been intimidated into silence.

    The ultimate goal of Islam is one world under Allah. The push for this ideal has had its ups and downs but if people don’t wake up and pay attention, they will one day find themselves living under Sharia law. It may already be too late for Europe. The U.S. and Israel may be the last bastions of independence from Muslim undermining and Jihad; that’s why we’re the most hated by the Islamic world. We need to stop bending over backwards for the Muslims. If EVERYBODY would read the Qur’an, public determination to face the very real threat of Jihad would be informed and boosted. I’m sure of it.

  • 1 decade ago

    I could not agree more. We ARE being invaded & the majority of people in this country are still blind to the truth. The religion of Islam is not condusive to the indigenous culture of OUR country. The people within OUR country that have awoken to the truth can see that this is indeed true.

    This is not meant to demean any particular faith, it is an observation of what goes on in OUR country today.

    It is a statistical historic fact that cultures imported from another country does not, & never has mixed with the indiginous culture of its so called host state.

    Britain awake before it is too late!

  • 1 decade ago

    Many countries have rulers that might be Muslim but they are not knowledgable about Islam. Many Muslims are not religious in these days - they care about money and power only. People like bin laden are not religious, they are money-hungry. They use money obtained from dealing with drugs for their explosives and they claim that they are doing this for Islam. They are liars.

    Source(s): www.2mfm.org
  • 1 decade ago

    layla and ep.. have u been brain washed? and whats this nonsence about the irish fighting over religion. not true its all about power and control and only the folish people and thugs use religious beliefs as an a excuse to fight. Nothing in the bible advocates what has happened in Ireland!

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I agree with Crusader 1 .

    Islam is a religion that is still stuck in the dark ages with doctrines that are repellent to most British people

  • 1 decade ago

    Does material wealth necessarily mean spiritual wealth? If USA is so rich, why launch an illegal war to the poor Iraqis? Not all Muslim nations are at war or considered as 3rd world country. Migration is sth that that happens with all kinds of ppl. Why cant you see your startlingly obvious bias?

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Nick A: Very nicely questioned. I totally agree with you.

  • 1 decade ago

    You make a good point for a moratorium on third-world immigration to the West. Why should we import more problems and ethnic groups who refuse to assimilate?

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Because they adhere to what was said in the Qur'an and Hadith. Allah is not peaceful nor benevolent nor just. Allah is a moonrock baby

  • 1 decade ago

    Muslims are conditioned not to think. Honestly, it's true. If independent thinking were a islamic value, how many youngsters do you think would volunteer for suicide-bombing duty?

  • 1 decade ago

    The same canbe said for alot of religions. People fight. People also have religions. Thus religious people fight. Christianity is also supposed to be a religion of peace but look at the Irish protestants and catholics blowing eachother up.

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