Is there a secular Alcoholics Anonymous group?

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There are several secular alternatives to AA.

SOS (Save OurSelves):

http://www.sossobriety.org/

SMART:

http://www.smartrecovery.org/

LifeRing:

http://www.unhooked.com/index.htm

All have meetings and online support.

Rational Recovery:

Not a program, but a method. No meetings but some peer support on the website

http://www.rational.org/

(Try reading either of Jack Trimpey's books.)

This is by no means all, only the most popular.

I got all the support I needed from online groups. I now co-own "without_aa":

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/without_aa/

6½ years sober, without AA

I'm honestly not sure. I personally know people who were not allowed to participate in the programs because they lacked a belief in god.

My god believing mother, who is also a recovering addict, is dead set on starting secular AA and NA programs.

Most non 12-step groups are secular. From what I've head (admittedly hearsay), 12-steps don't work nearly as well as other types of programs.

AA is generic religious. The higher power is God in a general sort of way, not the Judeo-Christian God, but a generic "god" most people of Western Culture can be comfortable with, without subscribing to a specific religion.

Have heard that the concept of "God as you see it" is quite important in AA.

Don't think thats it's important which higher power you chose, just so long as you feel that you can "make it aware of your problems". Perhaps the concept of Gia (think along lines of mother nature) might help. Most secularists see that nature is incredibly complex, and in some ways mimics the "functions" of a Deity.

Hope this helps.

Yes, it is called, cowboy up!

AA? Is an exchange of one compulsive disorder for another.

Namely, the compulsion to drink, for the compulsion to attend meetings.

I have a friend that had a drug dependency, who just stopped hanging out with other drug users, to stop using drugs. He has been drug free for over ten years.

AA is secular. The use of the word "god" can be troubling but it's essentially whatever you wish the term to mean. Just ignore it.

They use the term "Higher power" and that can mean anything you like, some say AA is their higher power.

I think so... or at least a similar program.

if you cant believe in anything grater then yourself how do you justify your mistake