Self Harming......A form of DEPRESSION?

Alcohol will not make it better.

The person needs to face up to whatever is bothering them, and come to deal with that pain. Self-injuring people are hurting themselves so that they can feel pain, and have it feel "real", because they can't come to terms with what is really bothering them, whether it be depression, or something more specific. The person definetely needs someone to talk to. If that is too hard, suggest a journal, and maybe at some point that person will be ready to share the journal with you, since speaking it out loud maybe too painful.

Good luck to your friend. All things pass in time, you just have to be strong enough to make it through it.

Yes you're right, alcohol can really exacerbate the situation. I went through a time of drinking ost nights even though it wasn't much and i found myself increasing my self harm behaviours and ending up in hospital. Since then i drink less often and it has had a massive effect. I also started using relaxation techniques which has helped and with the help of my psychologist i have put into place distracting and coping mechanism. Try and find out when you are most calm and what it is that makes you calm and build on it. All the best x

ABSOLUTELY DEPRESSION, including the alcohol used to "self-medicate"- take away the bad thoughts, which does not work.

#1- this is a "clinical" (real and serious disease that is ruining the person's life and could be fatal by suicide or drunken accident) dis-order of the mood center of the brain, very common, treated by a psychiatrist with medication.

#2- it can be very hard, sometimes impossible, to get the person into treatment. One symptom is a lot of fear they don't want to face, thus alcohol, and another is the conviction they are not sick, only a bad person in hiding. This is called "denial"

#3- if you get them to a doctor they may argue with the doctor, who knows all about it because it is part of the sickness, and refuse to cooperate or return.

#4- the medicines can be a very difficult story- there are so many of them and they all work differently in different people.

They also commonly have unpleasant side effects, some temporary and some not. It's a process of juggling and trial-and-error a sick person who doesn't think they need it often refuses to follow.

#5- It is very common that when the medicines work, the patient feels fine, and quickly concludes they weren't sick after all, or now they're cured, and refuse to take them, which gets you right back where you started from.

The bottom line is that the person must reach a point where they simply cannot go on the way they are. Then they die (no kidding), hide (in their room or into homelessness, or jail, or mental institution) or do what they need to do to live, relapses and all.

I know- I've been there- my life is that of a person with clinical depression- l cope and compensate every day, no fun at all -worth it? depends on the day or even the minute you ask.

What can you do? depends on the relationship- but the choices are: leave them alone, either because it's not worth it to you or to save your own life...appeal to their pride or to their responsibility to God, to spouse or children... or have them committed. Fear of consequences won't do any good because their actions are dictated by their emotions, which they cannot control and are out of whack.

Sorry to be so bleak, but that's the story. A former Surgeon-General of the US, Dr Koop, estimated that 20% of Americans, one out of five, suffer from clinical depression (not the blues, which go away) and most of them are not diagnosed, not treated, don't know they have an illness.

I don't know too much on this subject but have worked in a custodial job for a long time and have come across this type of thing a lot. As i didn't understand it, as the thought of cutting myself turns my stomach, i asked the psychologists i worked with and apparently what happens is the person has a build up of pressure that they feel they are reaching boiling point and once the blood flows they release the hormones that have caused the build up of pressure in the blood. Instantly feeling better. In a similar way to when a woman suffers from pre menstrual tension, as soon as the blood comes there is instant relief. As for what you think you should do, well it depends on the severity i suppose, if it is just scratching so no blood is drawn then i would be tempted to put it down to attention seeking, however if they are drawing bllod and the cuts are deep then i think the time has come to try and get specialist help as to why your friend is having these feelings.

Alcohol is baaad because it lowers the inhibitions and its ´easier´ to hurt yourself in that state.

A decade or so ago self-harming was so taboo no-one talked about it much. Thankfully people have a better understanding f it these days. It is very common among unhappy young people.

Yes, it is worrying to see someone doing that - it makes you wonder how bad its going to get... and you feel so helpless as a friend to help them. However, its important to understand that a person self harms as a coping mechanism - not the best coping mechanism there is, but it means at least that a form of coping is going on. It doesn´t necessarily mean the person is going to go on to commit suicide.

The best you can do for your friend is to try not to freak out or make them feel worse about themselves, explain that you realise they are doing it because they are hurting inside, and encourage them to seek help from a counsellor or doctor, or at least an older person they trust. On a practical level, do some searching around on the net, google self-harm and learn what you can about it, maybe identify some support groups your friend could approach. Lastly, keep your first aid skills up to scratch and know what to do with a bleeding person.

Sadly a lot of self-harmers find they need to ´cut deeper´ later on to get the same feelings of relief - that´s what makes it dangerous, its a addiction of sorts. That´s why its important to get them to seek help early on.

Some techniques that recovering self harmers use include snapping a rubber band against their skin - its painful but safer - and drawing on themselves with red marker pen to imitate blood and self destruction without actually breaking the skin, do you think your friend could do this instead?

Good luck, and remember to take care of your own feelings first - there is only so much a person can do when intense stuff is going on.

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