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Top 10 Dirty players of all-time?
With all the talk of how Pronger and Simon should be kicked out of the NHL, I searched out to come up with a list of the dirtiest players of all-time. Neither Pronger, nor Simon made the cut.
1. Bobby Clarke. Hall of Famer was as dirty as they come. Win at all costs. Used fear as a weapon. He would do whatever it took to win and there was nothing you could do about it because he brought some "back up" to watch his back every game.
2. Ted Lindsay. Hall of Famer would use his gloves or his stick, didn't matter.
3. Ulf Samuelsson. Ended some careers. Was the dirtiest of his era.
4. Mark Messier. Just a mean S.O.B. Another Hall of Famer.
5. Dale Hunter. All around cheapshot artist.
6. Kenny "the Rat" Linseman. Dirty little snake.
7. Dave Schultz. Broad Street Bullies Bully. Wing nut.
8. Gordie Howe. One of the best players of all-time. Mr. Hockey? Mr.Elbows!! Another HOFer.
9. Wayne Cashman. Stickwork for the Big Bad Bruins.
10. Claude "The Fraud" Lemieux. Dirtbag.
Honourable mentions to Bob Probert, Bryan Marchment, Darius Kaspiritis and anyone else I might have forgotten. LOL
What would be your list?
Notice how most of them were considered great leaders and the heart and souls of their teams. Crazy like foxes they were. Dirty WITH a purpose.....to WIN.
NHL is going soft.
Puckdat....Good calls on Shore AND really good call on the Rocket. They were big meanies. I am sure I am forgetting a few more as well.
Terrible Ted Green?
O'Reilly is a good one. Sutter too.
Simon over Cashman? I'll take your word for it. When you look at Simon's last two incidents....I guess he deserves to make the cut.
Tealtown...They don't come close to making the cut.
Jacoby...Ciccarrelli was a dirty little bugger.
Also, I thought about Stevens but when you look at it, most of his shots were deemed clean.......well, borderline dirty. He was nasty, don't put your head down to be sure but he doesn't make it.
Lubers...yeah, Marchment should be on the list. Schultz is there because he would still pummell you even after you were down and out. That's dirty. LOL
Lady Byngers need not apply.
LITY...Funny too how many of these guys go onto having hockey careers after hockey. Hunter owns/coaches London, Clarke of course, Holmgren, the Sutters, isn't Samuelsson on a bench somewhere? Phx maybe? Messier will be a GM someday, Cashman coaches...........that's just off the top of my head.
Tom....actually I thought I struggled with having Howe so far down the list. LOL They didn't call it a Gordie Howe hattrick for nothing. He was nasty IMO.
Joe...yeah, Hextall AND Billy Smith would be my goalies.
20 Answers
- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
I don't know Bob................only one Black Hawk on the list.
It's nice to see somebody separate dirty 'players' from the goons
Additional honourable mentions to those mentioned
Maurice Richard - when he retired, he was the NHL's career leader in goals, points AND Penalty minutes
Paul Holmgren
Terry O'Reilly
Brian Sutter
Chris Simon would have made my list over Wayne Cashman.
Bob
Cashman wasn't as dirty as Simon. The reason I say Simon is that he has the skills to play the game
Jacob
I saw Toe Blake play over 100 games, and he was anything by dirty. He had a very clean reputation (aside from winning the Lady Byng).
The rest of your list is good
- tomjc43Lv 71 decade ago
I agree with most of the list no goons only dirty players. I'd take Howe off the list though. His elbows were not like Marchmant's or Prongers. He used them to fend off defenders and make his space. If you left him alone he left you alone. A couple of others though
Dave (Tiger) Williams,
the early Stan Mikita (lots of stick work),
reach into the farm in Viking Alberta and take your pick.
Dale Hunter had a couple of brothers that could hold their own as well.
Good question some of these guys were goons as well but most went out of their way to inflict pain.
- JacobyLv 61 decade ago
Clarke
Lindsey
Hunter
Howe
Lemieux
Add:
Eddie Shore
Toe Blake
Marty McSorley
Dino Ciccarelli
Chris Simon
All those guys were also dirty players but messiers too high. I'd also throw Scott Stevens and Bertuzzi down the list
- Lubers25Lv 71 decade ago
I like your list but I would take Dave Schultz off and add Bryan Marchmant instead of giving him honorable mention. I would probably include him at or about where you included Schultz. I would probably move Samuelsson to the top of the list as well.
A player should not get onto a list of dirtiest players if they were willing to defend themselves. I like Clarke on there, not because he wasn't willing to defend himself, but because more often than not someone else did it for him.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
I agree with most but Messier. Messier was mean, but nowhere near Probert, Domi, Scott Stevens, McSorley, or even Pronger.
If Carcillo and Avery continuem they will have a valid spot in the books.
- [z]therLv 51 decade ago
Anyone mentioning Pronger and Bertuzzi simply hasn't been watching the game.
Nice list Bob.
- 1 decade ago
You could also add an 11 to that list... TIE DOMI
a love to hate relationship you loved him on your team Hate him on the other team.
(year is foggy but) put Scott Neirdermyer out I think of the playoffs not sure if it was 2003 or not. but there was hell to pay during the next regular season game after that (I think I was at the game...all the posters calling for his head on a flaming platter!!!
- Teal Town USALv 51 decade ago
Where's Bertuzzi or Mcsourley?
Bertuzzi should be kicked out of the NHL for that unnessessary hit from behind on the Avs player in 2004.
- 1 decade ago
Remember a North Star named Willie Plett? Tomahawked a Goalie in the back of the neck once. Slapshot into the back of a ref that called a penalty on him once. Mean, mean, mean. Glad he was on my team.