"Fatherhood" has been replaced by "child support" in modern politically correct society?

If it hasn't...why is it that a lot lower % of women who do not have custody have either no or a lot less child support to pay for the same income? I know many men who have full custody of their children and they have not gotten a dime. This includes my own son whose ex has to only pay about $50 a month. She has not paid a dime yet my son allows his daughter to see her mom. Yesterday this same precious little girl was at our house when her mom was to come and get her. When my grand daughter found out she kept saying for over an hour..."I don't want to go, I hate my mom"

Neither my son, my wife nor I have said anything negative about her mother, in fact we try to defend her to this girl. We all know the value of having BOTH parents in a child's life but we also know the need to protect them from actual abuse.

As to some facts about child support:

Information from multiple sources show that only 10% of all noncustodial fathers fit the "deadbeat dad" category:

90% of the fathers with joint custody paid the support due. Fathers with visitation rights pay

79.1%; and 44.5% of those with NO visitation rights still financially support their children.

Additionally, of those not paying support, 66% are not doing so because they lack the financial resources to pay

Custodial mothers who receive a support award: 79.6%

Custodial fathers who receive a support award: 29.9%

Non-custodial mothers who totally default on support: 46.9%

Non-custodial fathers who totally default on support: 26.9%

Equal custody would be the best way to go...and it has been shown that this one thing alone will stop a great many of the divorces we see in our society today.

No. It's not been any more replaced than the parents who run off and leave their children without support - and leave their child parentless .. which trickels down to the mother alone, having to foot the bill for the child for many years until the child is grown.

In this day - the parent (usually the father) is being held more accountable for child support. In past years - the father who abandoned their children got away without paying support -- so it was not as noticeable - and the man didn't mind and was silent ... however, the women carried the whole burdon of child support while rearing their children. So .. it wasn't that big of a deal to the run-away dads. Now - the laws are being enforced on a greater scale - which does not allow the child support to go without being paid -- and the dads are making a fuss because of it.

This has gone on for ages ... it''s just that the dads are having to be more responsible now.

And .. sometimes the role is reversed. The Courts look at the welfare of the child -- and not the Dad .. nor the Mom.

Not among the many fathers I know, including those who are separated from the mothers of their children.

They care about the kids, and do all they can to make their children feel important, loved and cared for, even if it means they sometimes have to do without themselves.

Kind of like how my dad thought of being a father ~ sometimes, you have to make sacrifices, but the reward is children who love and care about you throughout your life, and a happy home where you feel like the best person in the world.

Fathers who spend all their time moaning that their ex is such a beyatch very often don't have a lot of time for the children in their lives, expecting them to be 'on tap' when required and determined to use them as weapons against the woman they feel let them down.

Self sacrifice and genuine love for another human being takes second place to power and control for these losers, and they will end up wondering why their kids shove them in the cheapest available nursing home and never visit, while other men remain cherished in the bosom of their feminist families :-)

Then of course they'll look for something or someone else to blame, probably 'some woman'.

Cheers :-)

I see no human system that is moved by logic. Elected officials are elected based on popularity. Thus government is not logical. Churches try people to believe a lot of nonsense. This is also emotional and not logical. Even science as a whole has abandoned logic in favor of authorities. Very seldom a scientist have the courage of challenging the theories of what he was thought in the university. A person can be emotional and at the same time logical. The opposite of emotional is not logical. The opposite of emotional is apathy. Emotions is what make us care about things. Logic is just a break to uncontrolled emotions. Apathy is humans becoming less than animals. Human becoming souless objects,

I think fatherhood has been replaced by child support however it has less to do with a "...modern feminized politically correct society" and more to do with guys who wanna play but they don't wanna pay. they also don't want to assert their right to prevent preganancies by using condoms because 'it just doesn't feel the same.' most guys don't stick around long enough to raise their own child. Taking him to court and forcing him to help support his child, is as warm and fuzzy as fatherhood now gets.

No A father is not just a piggy bank. A child, specially a male child, needs to learn from his father that cannot learn from his mother. Otherwise he will learn it from the street. Not only that but fathers need the company of their child in order to feel complete. We are not money making machines, we have feelings.

PC society has a sick tendency of believing that because something is legal to do, is moral to do it. And when something is illegal to do it its moral to do it.

They forget the fact that the ones that make the laws are the worst kind of crooks that society have to offer. They range from control freaks to robbers. All of them hipocrats at sale.

I think you are being completly unfair. The concept of child support-even though it DOES get abused sometimes-is really meant to provide for the children. Don't men want their children to be taken care of?

Now, I am a feminist but I really hate the child support system. I'll give you a little story. My fiance has two kids from a previous relationship. Even though he has the kids 50%, he still pays child support. This makes no sence to me. And when he goes into the child support office they treat him like a piece of dirt. Even though HE was the one to set up an account with them to avoid having to deal directly with his ex, they assume they had to go after him for child support and look at him as if he is deadbeat. He was never away from those kids, they have always been in his life-even after he broke up with their mother.

He pays it because his father left when he was a child and he saw how his mother struggled to pay for simple things like shoes and clothes. His ex actually told him once that if she wanted to take that money and go have her nails done then she would. But in the long run, he never wants to be that dad that let his kids go without.

So please, don't generalize and assume that feminists have cause all the problems in the world. Most feminists do not denigrate fathers or men. You may not believe me, but truthfully most of us, afterall I cannot speak for all feminists, do not hate men nor fathers. I have been to quite a few rallies, lectures, read lots of women's studies books and while some have blamed some things on men, the majority have not. Really, I wouldn't get anything out of this by lying to you.

Fathers are extremly important in childrens lives. But lets be honest. We know how the game is played. If you are afraid of a woman having a child and then going after you for support, then don't sleep with her or be extra careful. I mean, that is how babies are made-by having sex. If men don't want a baby and the possbile repurcussions, then they should use BC or avoid it all together.

Or those fathers can go after the mother for more custody. Granted, courts are more likely to give full custody to the mothers, but usually they will grant at least half custody to the father. Sure, you might still have to pay some support, which I completly don't agree with in that case, but it is not very much.

If fathers want to get rid of child support then they should become more involved in their childrens lives. Maybe if more did this then the child support system wouldn't be so messed up.

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That would be great. I do not know what a modern feminized politically correct society is though. Would rather see a sane society. That would be a great start.

Yes, isn't it sad how many "men" (and I use the term loosely here) can't be men enough to be fathers anymore? They sire children carelessly and then think writing out a monthly check is a good enough effort to help raise them. How pathetic indeed.

A big factor is whether the divorce court judge is a man or a woman. If the mother is attractive, and the judge is a man, he often rules heavily in her favor, gives her the kids, as much child support as possible, and as much of the assets as possible. Judges have seen so many deadbeat dads that they tend to have a negative viewpoint about all dads, and consider dads in general to be worse than criminals.