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Mormons. Husband in sealed marriage commits adultry and is never caught. What will God say when he dies?
If husband in sealed marriage, commits adultry but does not confess and is never caught, what happens when he stands before God and how does this effect the sealed marriage? The wife does not know he has broken required laws governing the sealed marriage, but God does. Would same thing happen in reverse if it were a wife who cheated as opposed to the hubby? What about the sealed children?
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HE is DEAD!! SHE does not KNOW she needs to get the sealing cancelled.
What Happens??
Her REWARD is being sealed to the husband who cheated on her and broke the seal!!!! SHE does NOT know what hubby did and has NOT remarried!!
WHAT HAPPENS??
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[[[ the man would inheret a lesser kingdom ]]]]
He would STILL get a kingdom??? !!!
Does adultry and lieing by omission only count against you, as it applys to sealed marriages?? Are you telling me that the mormon religion will let you do whatever you want as long as you dont get caught and will settle for a lessor kingdom?? NO WAY!!
[Quote from responder: Btw, you seem pretty desparate for a star. What gives?]
This research is based as much in what the mormons think and know about the religion, as it is in the actual religion itself. If you will take some time and look at the varied responses, to some of my questions,you will see what I mean. That is not the way this started, but that is how the research has evolved. My questions come from responders input and a wish to seperate fact from fiction concerning those questions. The more people personally involved with the research, the more accurate and informative it becomes. There is a following of very intelligent,caring and knowledgable people who are both mormon and non mormon actively involved with this with more like yourself coming onboard daily. Every bit of input is important to myself and others who are involved for MANY reasons. I hope I have explained this in a way that you can understand. I dont even look at the anti-mormon sites its all about people
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- qman31500Lv 51 decade agoFavorite Answer
God will judge but I'd say the man would inheret a lesser kingdom and the lady would inheret something approaching the Celestial per my understanding of the LDS gospel. I might argue that the LDS prophets teach that really no one can enter the Celestial Kingdom since no one can perfect themselves, but that's another topic.
Keep in mind that when my LDS High Priest father in law abused my little five year old girl, my Bishop asked that we not encourage his wife to divorce him because "he will loose an important ordinance leading to the Celestial Kingdom." I was stunned at his advice. And I wish I were making that up. Loose an important ordiance just because he sexually abused a five year old little girl repeatedly? Thank God that such utter and complete non-sense has no place in his real plan of salvation.
But let's focus on the Christian community. Would God wink at the man and say, you 'ol sea dog; you accepted me as your personal Savior in 1982 so come on in to heaven you old scally wag.
No. This man never knew Jesus or so I'd strongly suspect. Nor did he ever live in a way that declared Jesus soverign in his life. Clearly the Holy Spirit was not at work in his life, correcting, prompting, humbling, to any degree. This man's God was pleasure, not Jesus. Those who meet Jesus change. You can never be the same again. And the spirit in your life moves you to a sweet spot of wanting to leave sin behind but not to the point of overwhelm on guilt. So this man seems ripe for the Matt 7:21 rebuke, depart ye never knew me ye workers of inquity. But in Christianity, he doesn't get a lower kingdom, he gets eternal separation from God. Jesus spoke of hell over 50 times in the NT. And that seems only fitting since God was never allowed to be the king and law giver in his life nor was the spirit evident to any degree.
- Old Timer TooLv 71 decade ago
Good question...
There are a lot of things that we do not know about the hereafter. There are certainly no promises to the unrepentant that has a knowledge of what they were doing. Thus, no mater who commits adultery, that person will lose their blessings and the righteous partner will still be blessed. We are not told how or by what means, only that the Lord will bless them according to his will.
You've raised some additional questions which I will not take the time to answer now, but basically the wicked will be punished and they will suffer the hell of their own conscience knowing that they were unjust and could have, should have made better choices. Their punishment is eternal, for it is God's punishment and Eternal is His name.
Much has been lost to the world, but there are hints of things in the scriptures that traditional Christianity does not accept. We know it as the Degrees of Glory.
BIBLE DICTIONARY
Degrees of Glory
It is apparent that if God rewards everyone according to the deeds done in the body, the term heaven as intended for man’s eternal home must include more kingdoms than one. In speaking of man in his resurrected state, Paul tells of glories like the sun, the moon, and the stars (1 Cor. 15: 39-41). He also speaks of the “third heaven” (2 Cor. 12: 2). Jesus spoke of “many mansions” or kingdoms (John 14: 2). Latter-day revelation confirms the teaching of the Bible on these matters and verifies that there are three general categories or glories to which the members of the human family will be assigned in the judgment following their resurrection from the grave. These are known as the celestial, terrestrial, and telestial kingdoms, of which the sun, moon, and stars are spoken of as being typical (D&C 76; D&C 88: 20-32; D&C 131: 1-4). In addition to the degrees of glory, there is a place of no glory, called perdition, reserved for those who commit the unpardonable sin.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
I'd say that unless the wife forgives him, the sealing will probably be broken. The family and wife would be a-Okay, but the man would most likely be in trouble.
Joseph Smith taught that if a man doesn't treat his wife well in this life, he doesn't deserve to be with her in the next (he said that in response to a neighbor who asked him why he helped Emma with the chores around their home). I don't know if he was saying it as his own personal opinion, or as something God had revealed to him. I think that there will be consequences in Heaven for those who mistreat their spouses here. We will all be held accountable for what we do in this life. So none of us know exactly what will happen to those who find themselves in the situation, but whatever happens will be fair. God is a just God, so it has to be fair.
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Whoaaaaaaa there tiger. Breath. Relax. You aren't understanding the doctrine.
"Her REWARD is being sealed to the husband who cheated on her and broke the seal!!!! SHE does NOT know what hubby did and has NOT remarried!!
WHAT HAPPENS??"
--- I believe I already explained that in the above paragraph. Let's say the husband who had cheated died and the wife never got remarried. She had no way to know what her husband did. So she isn't responsible to get break the Sealing. As I said earlier, I believe that God will break the Sealings in Heaven during Judgment. We honestly don't know. But we know that God is a just God-- so whatever happens, it will be fair.
[[[ the man would inheret a lesser kingdom ]]]]
He would STILL get a kingdom??? !!!
Does adultry and lieing by omission only count against you, as it applys to sealed marriages?? Are you telling me that the mormon religion will let you do whatever you want as long as you dont get caught and will settle for a lessor kingdom?? NO WAY!!
--- That's one of the silliest things I've ever heard you say (no offense). The LDS religion is VERY, VERY against any form of adultery whether it is a sealed marriage or a civil one. It's grounds for excommunication, actually. The Church teaches that you MUST repent for doing anything serious like that. So no, the "Mormon church won't let you do whatever you want and get away with it". Not at all.
Now that we've gotten that out of the way... Yes, he'd still get a Kingdom. We believe Christ's atonement ensures *everyone* a Kingdom, no matter how sucky they were in life. It's very hard to actually go to Hell in our religion's doctrine. The way I see it, we are *all* going to get more than we deserve after death-- none of us are perfect and make mistakes. That's part of what makes Christ so amazing for me-- I believe that he literally guarantees everyone some form of Heaven. To me it shows how much he truly loves us and how significant the Atonement actually is.
Let me explain a bit more about the Kingdoms. There are three different ones-- Celestial, Terrestrial, and Telestial. Celestial is the highest and is where God is. To go there, you must have accepted the Gospel, been a good person, and had all the Gospel ordinances done. The Terrestrial is for those who were good people in life who never quite accomplished that. The Telestial is for those who are the "unrighteous" ones-- the Stalens and Hitlers of the world. If a man were to commit adultery, he would be breaking one of God's commandments and going against the Gospel. So unless he repented, I personally believe that chances are he wouldn't be able to go to the Celestial Kingdom. So yes, he would still inherit a Kingdom-- but it would fall short of what he could have had. Does that make sense? It's like an oppotrunity or chance lost, to put it into better perspective.
- slcbtfLv 61 decade ago
The wife is entitled to the blessings promised to her and the children as well. Isn't that beautiful! When they were married each of them made covenants to God. She is not responsible for her husbands sins. That type of perception is similar to the original sin theory which is incorrect. The sealing powers remains intact for those (wife and children) in the covenant who haven't fallen away.
If the situation was reversed it would be the same scenario. Covenants with God are broken when the event occurs. Not when he stands before God and it is revealed.
If the wife didn't know this about her husband, and choose to remarry or not it would be fine.
For remarriage logic would suggest, that if she maintained her worthiness to receive the blessings promised in the temple and remarried to another righteous priesthood holder, those blessing would be made available to her. She fulfilled her covenants and the Lord would provide that option for her. (or he did if it is reversed)
If she did not remarry, the principals would be the same. The options would be granted to her due to her keeping her covenants with the Lord. The exact detail of this I don't know.
Most of this is my opinion and doesn't reflect the doctrine of the LDS faith. If this is a real scenario there are sources which can provide you with an answer.
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- 1 decade ago
Weather or not the person who cheates is a Mormon or not really does not matter. Thou shalt not committ adultry. If you don't get caught it does not mean you did not committ the sin. Mormons believe you can be sealed to your love one for time and all eternity. If one or the other breaks this covenant with each other the sealing has been broken for the one who sinned, not for the one who did not committ the sin. The still receive all of the rights and promises made with that covenant. The Children are born into that covenant.
Source(s): You can ask a Bishop for specifics on your situation - DoctorLv 71 decade ago
There is a reason we are asked not to judge other people and what will happen to them after they die. We do not know all the facts, but God does. We do not know what is in a person's heart, but God does. We do not know what repentance process a man will later go through, but God does. So we leave the judgment to God.
As general principles we believe that people are punished as much BY their sins as FOR their sins. We are not punished for the sins of others, thanks to the grace of God. A righteous man and a righteous woman will be blessed according to their righteous desires and their good works, and they will not be punished for the unrighteous actions or unrighteous desires of anyone else: husband, wife, children, parents, or anyone else.
It is possible to repent of sins even after death. This repentance is possible until the final judgment, which won't be until at least a thousand years after the beginning of the millennium. It may happen that the wayward husband will eventually repent. But if he doesn't, rest assured that his wife will inherit every blessing to which she would otherwise be entitled to. The same would be true of the husband if the wife had been adulterous.
- ConradLv 41 decade ago
"Are you telling me that the mormon religion will let you do whatever you want as long as you dont get caught and will settle for a lessor kingdom?? NO WAY!!"
Okay, here's how the lesser kingdom thing actually works:
The Bible talks of three heavens. Mormons believe they are:
The Celestial Kingdom - this is the highest kingdom. People who follow what they believe is right throughout their lives will live with God in this Kingdom (regardless of what their religious affiliation was on earth).
Terrestrial Kingdom - People who were not faithful to what they knew was right will go here.
Telestial Kingdom - Really bad sinners go here. Liars, murderers, adulterers, etc. Our Savior suffered for all sins, even the horrible ones and he will save all who confess His name from the endless torment of Hell.
Mormons are what religious scholars call "universalists" because they believe that everyone will go to heaven (although the more righteous you are, the better your afterlife will be). The redeeming blood of Christ will save all who confess his name. The only people who will not go to heaven will be those who absolutely refuse to go to heaven. God will not force any of His children to live with him forever if they don't want to. These people are the ones who will be eternally separated from God.
So even if the husband commits adultery he will not be punished with an eternity in Hell filled with fire and brimstone and endless torment. We don't believe God is cruel enough to assign an endless punishment for a temporal sin. That belief seems offensive to a lot of people, who really want sinners to burn forever, but we don't believe that God works that way.
Btw, you seem pretty desparate for a star. What gives?
- LDS MomLv 61 decade ago
It really does not matter if he confesses, because Heavenly Father knows. God will take care of it. When a Mormon who has a temple marriage, is excommunicated, (in this case adultery) all of their sealing lines are broken. The excommunicated person has to wait and then get permission from the prophet to be re baptized. The repentance process does take time. It is a big deal and our church is fierce on the matter of adultery. And not about the men either.
Source(s): http://jesuschrist.lds.org/ - Anonymous1 decade ago
A woman will not be held accountable for the actions of her husband. If she has been true and faithful to the covenants she made, then she will not be denied her reward. Her husband on the other hand, well that will be for the Lord to decide. Her and the children will be together so long as they remain faithful to their covenants. The children will most likely also be sealed to spouses.
- KerryLv 71 decade ago
Just like anyone who sins and tries to hide it, the Lord will uncover the sin and the sinner will be held accountable. Exactly what God's consequences will be, God knows. But it will effect the sinner's standing before God and he will have to account for the sin.
That is why it is so important to account for and repent of the sin now in this life. Repentance is not a punishment; it is an opportunity to right a wrong, grow and improve, and come clean before the Lord.
Source(s): Lifelong Mormon