Aren't most Christians "gentiles" by definition?

Seemingly,

Gentiles are those who embrace the covenant of Noah, and are included among the 'Chosen' (called a 'Ger Toshav')

As opposed to non-jews who are simply not jews (excluding Gentiles)

Thereby, christians would not be 'Gentiles', as they have forgotten the covenant of Noah, and replaced it with a mangod theology.

While there are sages that argue, Gentiles may have (limited) false beliefs and still be considered Gentiles, it is clear that christianity is one of these 'false beliefs' according to the word of Moses.

Either way, people with such false beliefs would still NEED to EMBRACE the covenant of Noah to be considered Gentiles among the nations, yet christians are still fixated on their mangod to the point that they dont even call THEIR mangod by his god name, but by his man name.

Be well.

Wow, you almost made sense but your rant is so all over the place I can barely make it out. Yes, most Christians are gentiles. No, neither gentiles or jews, really, killed Christ -- he allowed himself to die as a sacrifice for all. The Canaanite woman actually got her miracle -- you quit reading too soon, there, and Jesus commended her faith and persistence. And we are free like anyone else who comes to Jesus through His shed blood. I hope I answered your ranty questions, but I'm not positive I understood what you were saying. Maybe next time you should try just taking one or two points and keeping it simple and to the point.

Edit - Hmmm, *most* Christians claim to be genetically linked to the jewish nation? I don't know about the Christians around you, but all the ones I know say we've been adopted into the family of God's people. We are not Jewish, but we are still God's children.

EDIT TO RESPONSE:

"One cannot be another race "inwardly", let alone every single person on the planet. But what I'd like to understand is the moronic claims that most Christains "trace their roots back to their holy homeland". For starters, the genetic tree of most people who claim to be "Christian" are found in much of Europe which races include Anglo-Saxons, Celtics, Nordics, Goths, etc. But they are no way genetically linked to the Semites through the Bible...Therefore a European "Christian" cannot claim to have "descent of Christ's people". In most ways, it seems unethical if God favors one group over others, which by Christian standards is "unethical", since if God had created all humans is it logical for him to favor ONE group of people? Furthermore, how can just ONE group of people have a "true" relationship to God when they themselves are just as credible as those they accuse of heresy....."

To clear up things, a Gentile is anyone who isn't a Jew.

Who says we are biological descendant from the Jewish people?

We are of course co-heirs of Jesus and SPIRITUALLY descendant from Abraham.

And to the last part, God offers the salvation to all people, Jews and Gentiles. Not just one group has a true relationship with God. IT ISN'T EVEN ABOUT RACE THAT MAKES ONE SAVED.

I don't know but alot of your post doesn't even fit with Christian views.

When did we ever say that we are genetically descendant from the Jewish people???

"If you believe that Christians are free from the sins of their "gentile" forefathers then why aren't we all free from our biblical ancestors Adam and Eve?"

Have you tried reading the New Testament?

Romans 5:12: "Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned -"

We are dead through Adam, but alive through Christ.

For we learn in John Chapter 3, verse 6 that, "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but Spirit gives birth to spirit."

We are free from sin because of Jesus' plan to save us!

Read the following to understand.

Sin = death.

Since we are all sinners, we are all dead.

Jesus = Son of the Father and God himself.

Now Jesus was perfect and he never sinned, so he was innocent.

Now Jesus' death was all apart of God's amazing plan to save us.

Jesus died on the cross and he took all the way our sins.

This was possible because Jesus had never sinned and did not deserve death, but he took the burden of all our sins. Thus why he died and we are alive through Christ.

Now since he was God, he rose back from the dead! (

I'm not quite understanding your post.

I mean alot of it kinda answered already in the Bible and about Jesus turning away a Woman, I believe someone already answered that above.

1) gentile is not a question of ancestory, is a question of being jewish or not.

2) Judaism is not just/strictly a "race" but rather, a religious family/nation.

3) Christians are by definition "Gentiles".

interestingly, in Judaism theres no original sin.

also, as paperback said, chosen does not mean better, just chosen for a certain task.

also, at least IMO... the idea of "___ killed God" is just... lol.

yes, if you are strictly defining what a gentile is by the scriptures and tradition.

After Jesus was rejected as the jewish messiah, he sent his apostles into all the world and they grafted in the branches of the gentiles into the tree of life. by the spirit of adoption GENTILES are now become "Israel".

so in a spiritual sense NOT all gentiles are foreigners to the kingdom of God.

BTW, it is written, God will send people in another toungue to preach unto this people that are not your own. Why? because the rejected their Own God and went after OTHERs

I need to correct you :)

Jews and Gentiles ARE part of the same 'race'.

And 'chosen' means simply that the Jews first chose to accept the eternal covenant with G-d, when other nations declined. In return, G-d 'chose' the Jews to uphold his laws.

'Chosen' does NOT mean 'special' nor 'superior'.

Judaism teaches that we are ALL the children of G-d. We are ALL equal.

Yes!

When we were saved ,God circumsized our heart

by His spirit, and we became a Jew inward

because we are part of Jesus and he was a Jew.

mm hmm

yep