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How can Hillary supporters say they won't vote for Barack in the general and vice versa?

You people who would vote for one of the democratic candidates in the general election but not the other really confuse me.

You do realize that whoever gets the nomination - Hillary or Barack - the other one will be campaigning to get the winner elected and will definitely be voting for them (and probably even in their cabinet).

How can you trust either one of these candidates to be president, over John McCain, but then turn around and betray the ISSUES they are fighting for and vote for McCain (or not vote at all)? You realize that you would make Hillary/Barack cry if you voted for McCain!

Even if you don't get your first choice, please hold your nose and vote based on the issues! Make your favorite candidate proud.

Update:

rev. wright mentor: I assume you would vote for McCain if Hillary got the nomination too, right?

The question is not addressed to Republicans who spend all day trashing Obama on Yahoo answers.

Update 2:

LKL - again, I will assume that you are voting for McCain no matter who wins the nomination. This question is not addressed to you. OF course, if you would vote for Hillary, you would have to explain why she would vote for an inexperienced racist... is she an Obamunist too LOL

Update 3:

High yellow or white: Again, are you saying you would vote for Clinton but not Obama versus McCain? So you would vote for the person, Hillary, who will vote for, campaign, and 100% support this guy who you think would be such a huge catastrophe? I am trying to appeal to logic and reason man, not peer pressure.

Update 4:

tony - you have to believe that there is a difference. Hillary will at least be willing to move for higher taxes on the rich to balance the budget, even if you don't trust her to pull out of Iraq. Her healthcare plan is similar to Obama's (I actually prefer it).

Update 5:

Deb M - so Obama wants to win the nomination. This does not exactly make him as bad as the guy who sent us to Iraq on false pretenses or who did nothing about Katrina does it? You're talking about procedural issues here, not substantive differences. It's not like he's Richard freakin Nixon here.

Joey P - Do you really think Hillary is that self-serving she would rather get a shot in 2012? I believe she really wants the best for this country and I take her at her word.

Helter skelter - I wish I knew what it was about Obama that scares you, given that he supports almost all the same issues as Hillary and she would trust him with the keys to the whitehouse.

Update 6:

Helter Skelter- You do know that the Clinton's invited Wright to the Whitehouse and Bill had a "prayer breakfast" with him? That obviously makes Wright a little better than Hitler. Still, if hearing a black preacher on Chicago's south side who is angry at how blacks are treated in the US and who occasionally blames white people for some of this makes you uncomfortable, so be it. I just thought democratic voters accepted that people like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and even their more extreme cousin Reverend Wright were part and parcel of African American politics and major part of the democratic party. He doesn't say anything that Michael Moore wouldn't say.

Update 7:

I think that if the "give" the nomination to anyone there will be many people not voting. But I can't believe that they would vote for McCain in protest. I guess I can understand the "disillusionment with the process" a little better than the "attempt to destroy everything your candidate is fighting for by voting for a Republican"

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I agree with you wholeheartedly Beta. It seems that towards the beginning of the race there was a lot more unity between Barack and Hillary supporters. Now all of the in-fighting seems to be tearing the party apart (much to the delight of the GOP). In the beginning of the race though, I would never have thought that race would become such a dominant issue. It's made a lot of people uncomfortable and defensive, and has forced a lot of people to look in the mirror and evaluate their own ignorances. I even find myself pulling more towards Barack and away from Hillary when people make the allegations that he is racist (he's definitely not racist). I still would like to vote for Hillary if Barack losses the nomination, but the in-fighting is making me bitter about voting for someone who I think could be a good president. I just hope the DNC would step in and pressure the two camps into ending all of this stupid bickering.

    Source(s): Stop the fighting! DEMO's in '08 (regardless of who wins the nomination).
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I've seen questions like this a lot here lately and I'm going to respond to this one. I'm an Obama supporter but I am a Democrat first. As a member of a generation that didn't get a RFK or JFK we do get emotional about candidates. But the idea that Democrats are going to stay home in Nov. if "our person" doesn't win (for whatever reason) is an invention of the media. The policy differences between to two candidates are minimal. I believe that Sen. Obama has an intangible quality of leadership that I see when I look a video of RFK. But I respect Sen. Clinton (and her supporters) a great deal and believe that she would be a great President. Bernie Sanders was on the Colbert Report a little while ago and said that no matter who wins, Obama or Clinton would be a better President on their worst day than Bush has been on his best. I'm proud of both of the candidates and proud of my party. Sure I would like "my Democrat" in the White House but we need "A Democrat" in the White House. Nothing Democrats believe in is going to get done under Bush 2.0. We need to remember that we were all Democrats before this race started and when it's over we're all still going to be Democrats.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I'm a Hillary supporter and wouldn't dare vote for McCain. But Obama scares me and I think the only change he would bring to this country would be bad. So I would do a write-in for Hillary.

    Edit: It is not his views that scare me. I agree with nearly all his views. It's the fact that he spent 20 years with a pastor that has been spewing racial remarks. Oh, I forgot. He "wasn't there those days."

    I actually did know that Clinton invited him over for a breakfast prayer. I don't see how that applies to this though. Yeah, an African American preacher blaming caucasions for the spread of AIDS in their community DOES make me uncomfortable. It was a ridiculous remark to make. It's also extremely hypocritical for them as they also say many racial remarks themselves. It only provides for even more segregation. I am white and I do not support Obama in any way. But that does NOT make me a racist. I don't care if he's black, white, or purple. I still don't think he's qualified to run this country. I don't care if Rev. Wright is angry at the "way blacks are treated in America." I'm angry at the fact that caucasions are being blamed for racism so extreme. "Uneducated whites" sounds quite racist to me. Just because you're skin is a little darker than mine does not mean the whole world is against you. I could care less about Rev. Wrights color of skin, or Obamas, or yours. It doesn't matter! I could never hate anybody for the pigment of their skin, I just don't want to be blamed for it either.

  • 1 decade ago

    Most folks don't vote on issues, actually. It's something like 20% issues voters 80% something else.

    I don't think Hillary would cry one bit of McCain got elected over Barack. She'd be ready to go in 2012. Same thing with Obama. If Clinton crashes and burns to McCain then everyone will start talking about how we should have gone with Barack and he'd cruise to the nomination in 2012.

    I'm voting to fundementally change Washington and get a different kind of person up there. I want to see someone who can get average people organized and then no matter what happens we know our voice will be getting heard of the nomination. I also think McCain isn't as bad as some republicans and he wouldn't wreck us in 4 years (but people would certainly be tired of him by then)... I wont vote for him, prolly.. but if Hillary wins I'll do my usual thing and vote third party.

    or write in Barack.

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  • Love!
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    1 decade ago

    I'm just voting for whatever democrat over McCain, I would prefer Hillary even though I don't love some of her ideas, because Obama is caught up in this racist scandal with that reverend and I can't stand racists.

  • Deb M
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Why would I vote for someone WORSE than George Bush??

    Michigan held its primary on January 15th. Since Obama, Edwards and Biden voluntarily pulled their names from the ballot beforehand, the votes for Clinton cannot be said to represent a mandate. However, there's more to this story than the mainstream press has reported. According to an October 11th article by Lynda Waddington of the Iowa Independent, "The campaign for Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, arguably fearing a poor showing in Michigan, reached out to the others with a desire of leaving New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton as the only candidate on the ballot. The hope was that such a move would provide one more political obstacle for the Clinton campaign to overcome in Iowa."

    And the plot thickens. In the case of Florida, strategist Donna Brazille, an African American superdelegate and paid analyst for both CNN and ABC, had also served on the DNC rules committee when it stripped Florida and Michigan of their delegates. It was Brazille who argued forcefully in August, 2007 for this draconian measure, even after Florida's party chairwoman painstaking described to the committee the Republican legistalure's scheme to move up the primary date. With its high percentage of Hispanic voters, New York retirees and relatively low percentage of African Americans, Florida could have been forecast early on as problem state for the Obama campaign. In Michigan, the candidacy of native son Mit Romney precluded the possiblity of a large crossover vote of Republicans on the candidate's behalf. Thus it, too, would have favored Clinton. Had the DNC not sanctioned these states, she would therefore have hauled in the lion's share of over 300 delegates up for grabs, reversing the delegate count and adding to her momentum going into Super Tuesday. Arguably, the race would have ended as originally expected on February 5th.

    Soldiering on, the Clinton campaign pulled together $10 million in private funding to redo the primary in Michigan. When Senator Obama refused to endorse the plan, however, the state legislature declined to schedule a new vote. Meanwhile, Florida is in the midst of swapping out old voting machinery around the state and installing new machines, making a new primary there logistically impossible. Wary of ballot tampering, the Florida congressional delegation has so far refused to back a vote-by-mail proposal and insists the record-breaking turnout of 1.75 million democrats there on January 29th speaks for itself.

    http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter...

  • 1 decade ago

    maybe the Hillary supporters or Barack supporters support McCain over the other democratic party leaders (hillary or Obama) aka whoever wins the election

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Some of her supporters may say that but in the end, the Party will stick together against 4 more years of Bush strategies.

  • 1 decade ago

    There are a couple of reasons.

    1) I am not suceptable to social peer pressure, and I am old enough to have gone through enough elections to realize when some who promises hope and change and wants to bring everyone together is blowing smoke up your butt (example: George Bush Jr.). He promised all that and vetoed everything.

    2) I lived through the clinton era, and for another democrat to downplay the clintons, is in my book, not a democrat.

    3) I think Obama and I do not agree on many issues. He is far to liberal to me. African Aid in a time of economic recession is not a good priority.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Many Hillary supporters are Independent and under no circumstances will vote for Obama. I will never vote for Obama. He doesn't share my values.

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