Lost: Cabin Fever, thoughts?

No kidding... so many questions from a GREAT episode. My head nearly exploded.

My husband and I speculated about some of the same points. We wondered if he meant moving the island in space or in time? Also... another interesting point... Ben talking about how he knew that his time was up because he got a tumor. This opened up a new line of thought for me. So, it is clear that certain people were meant to be on the island. Locke, obviously. Hurley too, I think, not only because he can see the cabin, but because of the whole connection with the numbers. So, the plane crash was obviously not a coincidence. I always thought that Jack was supposed to be there for some reason, but last nights episode made me rethink that. Jack was in Sydney because of Christian... and obviously Christian is the one that was supposed to be on the island. Then there is the fact that Jack got appendicitis. Even Rose pointed out that people don't get sick on the island... they get better.

I wonder, too, about the whole Aaron thing. I know that Jack finds out about Claire being his sister (I can't figure out if she's dead or not... or, if Christian is dead or the island re-animated him or something)... maybe the island meant for him to raise the baby? Although.. Hurley said that Jack is not supposed to raise him (according to dead? Charlie)...

Wow... my brain hurts. LOST is back to it's roots it seems... the stuff that makes us go..... huh?

ETA: After reading the post below (good thoughts BTW) I felt compelled to give my own theory on Jack's future with the island. Bear in mind that I could be way off here... but I just have a feeling. I think that the Adam and Eve skeletons (the ones found in the caves in season 1) will end up being those of Jack and Kate (after they eventually get back to the island). I do not think that Jack is Jacob. I think that Ben would know (or at least have a feeling about it) if that were the case... Ben seems to have been taking orders from Jacob for a long time. The island also seems to want Jack to leave it... and from what we've seen in the falsh forwards.. he has a hard time finding it again.

ETA (again): Sorry this is getting long winded! I forgot to address what you said about Ben handing Locke the torch. I don't really think this is the case either. I think Ben still has some tricks up his sleeves. He plays evil so well. That deadpan expression when he said to Hurley that he wass standing right there when he pulled the trigger was hilarious. Also.... Gotta love Hurley. Only Hurley would share half his candy bar with Ben. I laughed out loud. :0)

I like your theory of "chosen ones." My theory (and I posted a question on this) is that since we now know that Christian Shepard can speak for Jacob, and his daughter Clair has been brought into the loop, that the main candidate for Jacob is an elderly version of Christian's son -- Jack (I'm talking well into the future, not the Jack we've seen in flash forwards to date). At this point, we all can be reasonably assured that some form of time travel is taking place -- which makes alot of things possible. I foresee a later episode showing Jack as a baby where we learn that his full name is actually "Jacob."

I also think the above may have an appeal to the writers who use Christian mythology as one of the sources, except their version makes the "son" more powerful than the father. (Interesting as well, that the creator of the show is Jewish). Of course Locke, Ben, Walt, Aaron, Richard, Widmore etc. also have their "destiny" tied to the island (at their very birth as we now know) so who knows.

I don't think the island can literally be moved. I think that with the available technology together with the strange qualities of the island, it will be possible to fool radar into sensing that the island is somewhere else -- or perhaps relocate the island in "space and time" as Heather says above.

Heather: I like the idea of Jack and Kate as Adam and Eve of the island, but I also like my idea of Jack as Jacob. We'll just have to wait and see.

Reecpeec: Lost is replete with stories from the Old Testament and the Isaac/Jacob/Esau story I'm sure is on the minds of the writers. However, I see it as an eternal struggle between Ben and Widmore for "control" of the island. They're both playing under the rules of a separate individual named "Jacob" though -- who is the one truly in charge. (So the Jacob in Lost is more similar to the Isaac of the O.T.). That Christian Shephard and his daughter Clair were seen in Jacob's cabin leads me to strongly believe that Jack is a hugely important character. Don't forget the Asian symbols on Jack -- he's destined for great things.

PS. I hope this show doesn't collapse under its own weight as Abram's "Alias" did before it. Rimbaldi and his devices were incredibly intriguing, until Jennifer Garner got pregnant and pretty much ended the show because she wanted to do movies (and was quite good in "Juno").

Loved it.

no need to repeat everyone else, so I'll just address the island moving.

I think we have had an earlier hint that the island could at least move in space, possibly in time.

Remember how Mr. Eko's brother took off in a small plane, from Africa? that plane could not reasonably get to an island that far in the Pacific, whether it went East or West. Sure their are gas refills, but that size plane just doesn't try to go across the Pacific.

BUT, if the island was elsewhere ( back then) nearer to Africa, the plane could have gotten there easily.

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The crashed Flight 815 in the Sunda Trench is nowhere near where the island should be ( roughly in the Pacific). for the Oceanic 6 to escape, they need to be not all that far from the (fake) crash. a few hundred miles? sure. but 1/5 or 1/4 around the Earth? no. so if the island moves to nearer the Sunda Trench, it will be away from the now dangerous boat with Keamy, and in a reasonable places for the 6 survivors to be found.

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Remember Classic Star Trek and the star dates used in the Captain's log?

Sure you do.

Somewhere or other, we learned that those dates sometimes seemed out of order, but it was because traveling in the space/time continuum with Warp speeds meant that time was sort of different. not exactly time travel ( except in 1 or 2 episodes) but moving in time probably means you move in space. and moving very far and fast in space means you may have also moved in time.

I could argue that in certain ways, moving in time on Earth also means moving in space. consider - if the island moved from the South Pacific to the Indian Ocean, it has to not only move in space but in time. the earth's movement as it revolves and rotates means that the earth has moved a LOT more than we are aware of in 15 minutes. the entire Earth is at a different place relative to the sun, etc.

moving the island in time means moving it in space, and the reverse. Or, it means that one can set a destination - the "time machine" needs a setting for where AND when.

(like we eventually learned about the Stargate.)

I thought this was a very good episode. I think in their own way everybody on the island was "chosen" in one way or another. But Ageless Richard obviously had Locke in mind for something. I'm not too sure about Widmore being the former Ben and Locke being groomed to take Ben's place...

Claire...I definetly believe she died in the explosion. I think she had to manifest her self in "human form" to ensure Aaron's safety. Miles attentativeness towards Claire makes since to me now. He knew she was dead all along.

Aaron has a gift of some sort, but what could it be? Could what John couldn't accomplish when he was a boy, be Aaron's fate now? The time travelers can't change fate and destiny, but they can manipulate it.

Work with me on this. If you are familiar with Jacob in the bible. Jacob was the chosen one by God and Esau, Jake's older brother, was favored by their father Issac. Issac was to leave all his money to Esau, but Esau did something to fall out of favor with his pops. So although we think Issac will automatically give his fortune to Jake, this was not the case. Jake ends up tricking his blind father into believing he is Esau,thus taking Esau's share of the inheritance with his mother, Rebecca's help.

So how can we parrallel this to Lost...could Jacob really be Ben to Widmore's Esau? Could Jacob be Widmore and the rightful owner of the Island Locke (aka Esau) who somehow fell out of favor with the Island by rejecting his "gift" along time ago, by not going to science camp. Issac was a forgiving man and brought Esau back into the family, Jacob was resentful. Could this be the same thing going on...I don't know..just a thought.

Remember how there were 2 islands? that doesnt get mentioned any more? I wonder if that is related to how they will "move" the island