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If experience and not policy positions is the reason you would vote McCain over Obama...?
To Hillary supporters and independents"
I have heard many arguments for why you would vote for Hillary in a general election but not Obama. I won't accuse you of racism, ignorance, etc. but there are legitimate reasons to prefer Hillary.
However, one of the reasons I frequently hear for why you would support McCain over Obama is experience. If that is the case, I would like to know:
(1)Does the fact that Obama has 10 years of legislative experience (Illinois senate 1997-2004 US senate 2004-now) which is more than Hillary (US senate 2000-now) mean anything to you? Why do you completely discount his 7 years in the Illinois senate? Bush was only governor for 5 years before taking office - Obama is twice as experienced in politics (and governors have no foreign policy exp.)
(2)If experience is your main criterion, would you vote for Dick Cheney over Obama if he was the Republican nominee? He has the same positions as McCain on all the issues, and more experience.
Thanks to "I still love my pastor" for being the only person to actually answer question 2.
I was not looking for statements that McCain has the most experience - that is obvious.
I think the points about whether state senate experience should count for anything are legitimate.
"Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[22] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[23] Obama also led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained... During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms."
I guess if you don't live in Illinois none of this would seem like accomplishment
I am YOUR GOD I Am oBOMA BOW!!!
I don't even know where to begin you are wrong on so many counts. I'll just point out that you are simultaneously criticizing Obama for spending too much (his health plan), too little (not adopting Hillary's health plan), increasing taxes (capital gains) and not paying for his new spending (1.7 trillion in debt).
If you are going to criticize his positions on the issues, you have to be consistent.
Also, he never was a lobbyist for oil companies. He was a state senator. I'd be interested in seeing your source, but I won't hold my breath.
But I agree with you on two things - Hillary has a better health care plan (I like a universal mandate), and Obama did miss many votes in the Illinois senate. Of course, McCain has missed a ton of votes in the US senate this year too. That is the unfortunate consequence of our political system, which forces politicians in office to spend so much time campaigning for re-election.
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- Psycho MagnetLv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
1. I don't discount that time in office but if you look deep, you'll find that he didn't accomplish much in that time frame. Additionally, some of the legislation he did support goes against what I believe and support - he claims he "hit the wrong button" on some of it (1). Additionally he has a "red flag" of voting present on items that were important to the state but also potentially politically damaging (2). That shows me he was looking ahead and focusing on his own career more than he was serving the fine people of Illinois.
2. Obviously you have not viewed Mr. McCain's voting record because you would notice that McCain has actually sided with Democrats on a variety of issues. No offense but you're buying into the "McCain equals Bush" spin that someone is starting and while I dislike how much McCain is now running toward the right during speeches, the facts are there to show he has been very much a "middle of the road" politician on many issues. Let's not forget that McCain almost ended up on a Democratic ticket several years ago.
Would I vote for Cheney? No. But your faulted comparison that they are identical is easily dismantled by factual data and pretty much nullifies the question.
Given your additional comments, I would encourage you to read the links I've provided. Assuming, of course, that you actually wanted real answers from people but it appears you may only want people to accept your opinion and spin and really don't care about the answers to the question you asked.
Source(s): (1) http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-... (2) http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/02/... - GO HILLARYLv 71 decade ago
I am not a racist, ignorant nor am I a John McCain supporter, I am simply concerned. It may be safer to elect John McCain, he is far more qualified then Barack Obama and may do the least amount of damage overall.
McCain will have no problem convincing America is he is the better candidate. He also knows the secret to his re-election will be ending the war with honor and improving the economy. With 4 years to work on it he may be granted a second term. Ouch !
Now that you have made your decision for Obama, you must consider:
Obama's Senate experience was for the most part on the fence, he rarely got off it. McCain may mention this.
And as for "if experience is your main criterion" please consider--McCain is not like Dick Cheney, McCain has a conscience.
- 1 decade ago
Since around 1975 she has been doing various things, good causes. LIke running a legal aid clinic for the poor & handled cases of foster care and child abuse. She organized a group called "Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families". President Carter appointed her to the board of the United States Legal Services Corporation, a federal nonprofit program that funds legal assistance for the poor. So although she has not had the type of experience we would like, she does want to do good for the USA and she can't do any worse than we have now or could possibly have. I would though vote republican before I voted for Obama. Even if the president is experienced and the issues they stand for are what we are looking for, I would like a president who loves the country he/she is going to run (who Pledges Allegiance To The Flag). Just my opinion & that of others I know.
(this has nothing to do with the question but) - This just in: I was watching the news and McCains timeline of getting the troops out of Iraq starts in 2013!!!! That is after his 4 year term is up. I guess he is counting on a 2nd term!
- B.KevorkianLv 71 decade ago
It's common wisdom that a governorship is better experience for a would-be president than legislative, and that national experience is better than state.
Obama is clearly the least-qualified of the current slate of presidential candidates. McCain is clearly the most qualified (more experience than both his opponents /combined/ - when he started his fist term, Obama was a college kid). Clinton, OTOH, has unique experience, in being the First Lady and 'co-president,' durring the first Clinton Administration.
It could reasonably be summed up this way: McCain has the most experience, Clinton has the more relevent experience, and Obama has a nice speaking voice.
Of course, McCain also has a long-standing reputation as a reformer and 'maverick' willing to cross party lines to get things done, while Clinton has along-standing reputation as the most divisive personality in American politics - and Obama has no long-standing reputation, at all.
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- 1 decade ago
obama from 1996 to 2004 was a state LOBBIEST!
do you understand what a lobbiest does?
they are the ones that wine and dine the senators to get them to vote their way.
he was a lobbiest for 8 years and will NOT show his taxes for those years. he lobbied for the drug companies and oil companies.
see why we have a problem with obama and people like you who distort the truth?
when the securities commission asked for his paperwork to prove his accountability, he stated, "I didnt keep any"
that was all over the news.
he went into his senator job in 2004, he then 3 weeks later releases his book and goes on nationwide tour for 3 months. He then comes back and starts his campaign for president.
He has an actual time of 143 days in the senate since 2004
look it up on the congressional website.
he has also missed MORE votes than any other senator.
how about when doing facts, make sure they are all out.
I wont vote for him because he has yet to lay out a plan for anything..
example
he said 2 nights ago, a promise to make sure urban areas have broadband access! WHAT??????????
since when does the president of the united states have anything to do with that!
his healthcare plan, from his own website and in debates WITH edwards says his healthcare will NOT cover 100% of america.
he will tax capital gains 28% which closes down my business!
we will raise taxes on anyone making over 75 thousand a year.
Not everyone is covered under his healthcare plan which consists of strengthening medicare. leaving millions uncovered.
I can go on. but see, its not experience.
some of us want actual plans and not the words Hope that changes that!
1.7 trillion dollars in NEW debt!, you do understand that thats MORE than we pay now.
And NOONE can say, "we will use the money we save from the war" LOLOL we are borrowing from china and medicare and social security to fund that stupid war. there is NO money to be used from there if we stopped that war right now!
we OWE that money back!
lol
- DracoLv 71 decade ago
1. Obama has absolutely no foreign experience unless serving on Advisory Committee's counts;
2. Our nation is at an extremely critical point in world affairs, with an on going war and more threatening enemies than in than last 15 years. The potential for a major confrontation in the next 3 years, has NEVER been higher;
3. Obamas loyalties and patriotism are suspect at best and decisions that require red, white and blue blood, best interests of our Country, are absent in Obama.
McCain "understands" war, the suffering, the blood and sweat and MOST important, the effects on his citizens.
The closest Obama has, is "Saving Private Ryan" on TBS.
- Anonymous5 years ago
1) He understands that to bail out on Iraq would be a disaster for our Nation not only in the war on terrorist, but also will embolden the very ones that seek our demise. 2) John McCain promises to nominate judges who understand that their role is to faithfully apply the law as written, not impose their opinions through judicial fiat 3) John McCain is pro-military, will ensure that the nation is capable of protecting the homeland, and respond to any crisis that endangers American security, and win any conflict we fight. 4) He seeks to secure our borders in an expedited manner and to make sure the workers that are here are here with our nations knowledge and approval 5) On education he feels parents should be empowered with school choice to send their children to the school that can best educate them. 6) He is not a Marxist / Socialist inexperienced junior senator from the crime infested streets of Chicago.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
A governor is the administrator of a state government. He or she is the top politician in that state.
A senator is just another member of a legislative body.
If the parties were really offering us change, in this election, they would be offering us governors and not D.C. candidates.
- 1 decade ago
The Illinois Senate is a part-time job and Obama didn't even do THAT part-time job fully. He voted PRESENT over 100 times!
The guy is a FRAUD. Don't try to bolster his non-existent experience into credibility. It's an impossibility and it makes an *** of you.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I personally don't vote party, but for the person themselves. The reason I won't vote for Obama is his lack of passion for America. His first two books are very negative toward America. That bothers me. As for Hillary, she makes no sense and seems to avoid the truth. McCain wouldn't be my first choice but I do feel he is better for this office than the other two. His love for America stands out along with his experience. That's why he will get my vote.