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Why is the Christian God incapable of forgiveness?
It seems to me that God will condemn people for things that most human beings are perfectly capable of forgiving them for.
If a human being can forgive someone for not recognising them, why can't God?
In fact we seem to trump most versions of God in all respects.
(Please, no "people condemn themselves" answers as that is simply dishonest).
37 Answers
- Scott MLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
The deity described in the Bible starts out as a petulant, tempramental, irrational tyrant who plays games with innocent lives and dotes on his "chosen" to the detriment of everyone else. In the NT he gets a makeover and is less tempramental, but still demands absolute obedience and adoration regardless of a total lack of any perceptable activity or evidence of its existence. Then in Revelation he goes completely berserk...evidently the strain of pretendong to be a nice guy gets too much for him and he vents all kinds of atrocities on Earth out of spite.
It makes no sense...why was this super-being, with infinite options at its fingertips (or whatever) unable to forgive anyone their mistakes without bloodshed first? In the OT it demanded animal sacrifices. In the NT, it was somehow incapable of forgiving anyone until it had its own "son" brutally murdered.
And even then, that "forgiveness" comes with the price tag of absolute blind submission and adoration.
"Loving?" "Merciful?" "Forgiving?" Give me a break. The being described in the Abrahamic religion is basically a super-powered war chieftan.
- Anonymous5 years ago
job questioned God one time and God in turn asked job some questions and job had to shut up because it was foolish to question the God who could create all life and the universe, basically he said job were you there when I created these things? did you counsel me when the galaxies were placed and the orbits established.. it was a good point in that you might be able to judge your fellow man because we have a close base of comparable equality but to judge the ways of God is in itself putting yourself above God and God below you. Those who choose God will inherit the perfect world God chose to test the angles and man before the perfect state is established. These are his ways and who is anyone to argue against the almighty. The free will is a gift and if you choose to rebel against God how is his exclusion of you from eternity in heaven unjust? When you have a party you do not invite everyone in the world you invite those you chose through you established relationships and exclude the strangers. Now you wish to deny God the same right you would demand for yourself if 50 strangers came barging into your home. You would say get out I do not know you...This is the gospel an invitation to know God be accepted and enter in. I hope you understand what I am trying to tell you; it is foolish for the one who is created to try to dictate to the creator what shall be. you most certainly will be subject to the rules that God has seen fit to govern by you will not triumph in this court with your arguments.
- byHisgraceLv 71 decade ago
You are to forgive others as God forgives you. God is all about forgiveness. That's why He came and died on the cross, so we could HAVE A WAY to forgiveness. If He hadn't done that, we would all be headed for Hell. That is what we all deserve. Instead, He has great mercy and GRACE, in which He gives us for free. All you have to do is accept Him. And repent of your sins. Sins aren't automatically forgiven. Why would God forgive someone who wasn't sorry for what they've done against Him? Everyone has the chance for being forgiven. And it IS our choice. Where do you think forgiveness came from in the first place? God. People wouldn't be able to forgive each other if it wasn't for God's forgiveness. You have it all backwards.
Sin is against God. He is the One who you need to seek forgiveness from.
- dewcoonsLv 71 decade ago
This might not come as a suprise to you, but odds are that Bill Gates is not going to hand his fortune over to you.
It is not becaus he has something against. You may be a perfectly fine human being. You may do some good things. You may support some causes that he believes in. You may have even helped him to make his fortune by buying his products.
But he is still not planning to give you his money.
It is because he has no relationship with you.
God also reserves his blessing for those who are in relationship with him. If a person decides they do not want a relationship with him, that is their decision. He will honor it. Take a step towards him, and he will be there to meet you and begin that relationship.
He does offer forgiveness, but we have to take it before it has any value for us. Otherwise it has no effect and we remain the same as before it was offered.
I know you do not want "they condemn themself" as the answer, but that is the answer. And an honest one.
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- 1 decade ago
People like our friends and family cannot forgive as God does. Sure when we cause harm to another we ask for forgiveness but ultimately their pardon will not save or condemn us. Only God can forgive and that is why Jesus paid our dept on the cross. With out that perfect sacrifice we would still have to sacrifice animals in order to repent. That would really suck!
When Jesus said many times, "Get up, your sins are forgiven". The Pharisees and scribes knew that only God could forgive so that is why they set out to stone Him. He was claiming deity in those words (as He did many times).
Not to get off the point too much ;) However God is about forgiveness all you have to do is ask. I think we have more of a difficult time of forgiving ourselves. Satan is right there whispering that we cannot be forgiven... we will never be good enough. That is what he wants us to believe. I believed that for a time. It is difficult to feel that we have been forgiven but when we are washed in the blood (meaning accepted that God sacrificed Himself for us and therefore has washed us clean) God says our sins are as far from the East is from the West. It is important to ask those that we have hurt to forgive us but if they do not it's okay. Just as we can forgive those that do not ask. The whole aspect of forgiveness is difficult I know. We are finite beings and do not fully grasp the concept of unconditional love. This is what scripture says:
37"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. 38Give, and it will be given to you. A good measure, pressed down, shaken together and running over, will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."
39He also told them this parable: "Can a blind man lead a blind man? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40A student is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher.
41"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 42How can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take the speck out of your eye,' when you yourself fail to see the plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Luke 6:37-42 NASB
14"For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you.
15"But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions. Matthew 6:14-15 NASB
Thankfully it's not up to us ultimately. Jesus died for us... just ask ;)
Atonement is beautiful.
Blessings :)
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Your question is a valid one. I will answer it from the
original manuscripts:
God is able to forgive, if forgiveness is sought and requested,
of course.
However, for those who do not recognize God as God, I realize they are being told that they are enroute to hell where
they will burn forever and ever.
According to Gods Word, however, most of those told they
are going to burn, are not. They are going to be TAUGHT,
NOT BURNED.
When Christ returns, he ushers in a 1000-year period of
teaching and disipline. This is not a second chance, but
only that God realizes there are lots of reasons that a soul
in the flesh doesn't find the truth so as to have a common-sense recognition of God. One of those reasons, Gods Word talks about over and over again: that is, that there
is so much false doctrine coming out of pulpits, that people
don't have one hell of a chance to really learn truth. Whats
being taught mostly are church rules/regulations, and the
traditions of man (which make void the word of God).
To say these folks will be burned for all eternity is horrible,
and thankfully NOT THE CASE. No person is even judged
until AFTER the teaching period is over. Not even Satan
himself is in a pit of firey torture - he's standing at the throne.
Lets see: Here we are enjoying our eternal life, and mean-while, over there somewhere is a pit of horrible torture where
we hear our child or mom or husband screaming forever and ever for help and mercy as they burn and cry......
Oh! Isn't eternal life wonderful?? NO ITS NOT WONDERFUL,
ITS HORRIBLE TO SAY THE LEAST.
And its not going to happen, not according to God its not.
All those AFTER JUDGEMENT who do not make it, will
follow Satan into the Lake of Fire, which has the ability to
destroy both the spiritual body and the soul. It will take as
long as it will to step into it, and be turned to ashes from within. Then, after all go into it, even that Lake of Fire itself
is DONE AWAY WITH. The only thing forever and ever is
the smoke that has risen up into the atmosphere (smoke does that, its just another idiom).
God not only forgives with repentance and a change of heart,
but he also does not wake each morning looking for someone
to throw into burning flames. No person's soul will be
destroyed without every possible opportunity to avoid it.
What kind of God are they painting out there, anyway??????
Source(s): jpg interlinear, grk text comp/massorah all but cements it in - stbbLv 61 decade ago
Even some Christian agreed with me, that the Old Testament and New Testament God are two different personalities.
And I got thumb down for mentioned Jesus single handily change the Judaism into a new form of Religion- The New and Better version of monolithic God?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
People do not have the power to forgive sins, only God. for example, if you have a rule in your house and i break it, is it ok if i ask my brother for forgivness instead of you? God has said He will forgive you if you only accept Him and ask Him for forgivness. Belief is not enough as Satan even knows that as he was the right hand angel of God.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
God forgives
- Anonymous1 decade ago
There is nothing as incapability with God.
God has nothing to forgive anybody for. If anyone of us needs forgiveness for some wrongdoing, the address is not God but
those whom we offended.