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Who else is excited that the Supreme Court is going to help Omar Khadr, who killed an Army SGT, go scott free?
The U.S. war crimes court goes back into session this week as lawyers for defendants look for ways to use a new Supreme Court ruling to derail the prosecution of suspected terrorists.
The attorneys have said they hope to use it to assert other constitutional protections — challenges considered likely to further delay the long-stalled prosecution of terror suspects on this isolated U.S. military base in southeast Cuba.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008-06-17-gitm...
Isn't it great to see these guys that murdered our troops getting Constitutional protection? Nothing like a few terrorists working the system to get out of jail.
As a former Marine this sickens me. What do you think of the Supreme Court's decision to help these guys get away with murder?
The Constitution was written to protect Americans. Period.
Way to quote the Declaration of Independence. That has nothing to do with the constitution or our laws. Read the Preamble of the US Constitution. It says "We the People of the United States".
Also, I'm not a Bush supporter for your info.
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- ohbrotherLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
As a 30 veteran of law enforcement and a Vietnam vet my greatest concern is that these people will have hearings. Under the Constitution that entitles them to bail. I know Muslims groups that are suspected of supporting terrorist will no doubt vouch for them and provide bail. Who will keep track of them. The Supreme Court told Bush and Congress to make law pertaining to the detainees two years ago. They did and what these five judges did was overstep their authority and overturn law and make new law. Congress has the power to overturn a Supreme Court ruling. Unfortunately it will take the deaths of Americans on our own shores at the hands of these people that have been instructed all their lives that to kill the infidels will make them a martyr. There are over 400 there and the odds are very good that a number of them will be granted bail if they are not a flight risk. So according to the 5 Judges ruling what do our troops do if there is a sniper firing on them from a building. Do they call the Adjutant General and wait for a search warrant. Those that cheer this decision do not fully understand the consequences. They place the value of terrorist and the enemies of America over that of our citizens and troops.
Additional: For those above that are not familar with The United States Constitution. This is how it begins. The Preamble.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
It is addressed to the world that it pertains to the People of the United States. It did not say any other country than the United States. Many here prefer to interpet it much differently than it was written in plain English. They are reading things into it that do not exist.
The detainees were already being tried by military tribunals. They do not come under the auspices of the Geneva Covention of which they do not abide anyway. The Geneva Convention states we may hold prisoners until hostilities cease.
- Noah HLv 71 decade ago
The constitution protects everyones rights that is subject to US law. A free and open trial with the whole world watching will prove once and for all that we're the 'good guys'. If the government has the evidence, then these people will be convicted. Without free and open trials a guilty verdict means nothing. Many of these people were captured in the act of resisting an armed foreign invasion...exactly what they're guilty of isn't apparent. I think the US public is entitled to know the full story as these proccedings are done in our name. Basically these particular people should be treated as POWs. It's a different story if its spies and sabotures on our turf. We had military trials during WW2 for German spies that entered the US....they were hanged, but I don't know if we ever captured and punished those that sent them after the war. In the case of Bin Laden, his people are members of a non-state 'mafia', which makes his actions and that of his people a criminal enterprise....not a military event. Once captured they should be treated a common criminals. Twisting the Constitution isn't the way to go. Using the Constitution is. As a former military officer that makes sense to me. No kiddin'!
- ColleenIsBackLv 61 decade ago
What are you scared of? That the guy might receive a fair trial? The person is (get ready, it is important) ACCUSED of having killed a soldier. The last time I looked, an accusation is not proof and is not a determination. Eventually, after all the legal wranglings are settled, people will be tried. The thing YOU don't seem to understand is that if the Bush Administration had not tried to game the system and had instead put these people in real prisons and tried them in the Federal Courts in the first place, most of them would have been tried YEARS ago. The idiotic bleating of those that are blaming the Federal Courts and the Supreme Court for the mess that the Bush Administration made of the entire prisoner detention/interrogation program and trials ignores who is really responsible for it: President Bush and his Administration.
- dorelliLv 45 years ago
seem human beings, you're residing in Canada, have faith our justice gadget for crying out loud, not the individuals. All of you who says kill this new child, properly, for one, pass the the states reason here in Canada, we don't think of the death penalty is ethical and could be integrated. Secondly, this new child IS and became a new child whilst he became caught. Being caught in a detention center for 5 years, remoted and tortured isn't precisely discovering so for all all of us understand, he continues to be sixteen/17 years previous in the top. i don't think of that in case you knew this new child, you would be bashing him like this. all and sundry Canadians stay in a multicultural society, so end this freaking bigotry. whilst became the final time it have been given you everywhere. human beings are human beings, I see merely as plenty crimes from another way of existence in the international so end pinpointing those from the middle east merely on the grounds which you like in charge somebody. no person is extra applicable then yet another guy or woman so all this might carry approximately nowhere. somewhat, you may desire to concentration on why our PM is appearing like a puppy, rolling around like a puppy for George Bush. We get it, Canada isn't a powerhouse, we want the U. S. to survive, yet does that recommend that we've no decision in any count, merely like Khadr had no option to not stick to his relatives back to Afghanistan after 9/11.
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- 1 decade ago
If Bush listened to the constitution in the first place then those prisoners would have never been marched around naked for the world to see. It was an embarrassment. Respect the constitution and those prisoners will never see freedom unless our soldiers are just grabbing groups of Innocent people in there home lands and abusing them to act like there hero's or something. It ain't whats gonna keep America any safer.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
If it is a "war" on terror, then how is it murder? It isn't considered murder when two sides kill each other in war.
If what Omar Khadr did is considered murder, then how is our soldiers killing the other side not murder as well?
edit: Actually, the constitution ISN'T just to *protect* Americans. It is a framework of the laws of this country which NO ONE is above.
What good is *democracy* without the rule of law? How is it EVEN a democracy if that rule of law is not followed.
I'm always amazed at those who claim to be the most "pro-American," yet have the least regard for it's laws.
- Older and WiserLv 51 decade ago
We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish tranquility...
... hold these truths to be self evident, that ALL MEN were created equal.
Who says that the constitution was written only for Americans? How can we say our values are right and just if we don't use them in dealing with our enemies? As a former Marine, I fought for these rights and this constitution!
Source(s): http://www.usconstitution.net/ - 1 decade ago
why would someone who supposedly fought for the constitution hate it? Or did you lie when you took your oath?
The constitution applys to anyone on US soil who is not a prisoner of war. We chose not to label these sickos POW's. Blame Bush. And why cant we try them in court? If he killed a marine he would be convicted right?
Source(s): what harm is there in using the Rule of Law to dispense justice? Should we go and just grab people will nilly and randomly or for money rewards and hold them forever in an outdoor cell? That is what is going on now. We already released 250+ guys who were innocent. OPPS! - 1 decade ago
Whats the point of trying to save our system if you have so little faith in it... The idea that Omar won't be found guilty in anything else but a military court smacks of the communist systems in Russia or China. It is your kind of justice that sickens me and questions what America is all about. The system that you desire puts political opponents away in gulags who disagree with those in power... You sicken me and are a disgrace to America. What ever happened to the oath that that Army Sgt took to up hold the constitution. To preserve it. That's what I risked my life for as a vet. I doubt that you even served and if you did, you forgot the oath you took.
- Susan MLv 71 decade ago
I guess that we should just adopt a take-no-prisoners policy. That will save a lot of money on having to transport and care for these monsters too. This is the outgrowth of giving criminals and every evil being more rights than the innocents.
Thanks for serving our country. We still have a great country even if the courts are full of sicko judges.