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SiFu frank asked in SportsMartial Arts · 1 decade ago

Should a martial arts school consider providing parallel training in other life skills?

This is primarily a question for instructors or concerned parents, senior students. Many of our youth today are not exposed to the opportunity to interact with their real environment. I believe this inhibits their ability over time to develop good problem solving skills. I think they need to learn how to get by in the real world and are not afforded that opportunity.

Should we provide some outdoor skills and challenging outdoor experiences?

Update:

Our school takes the students for a 3 day camp out once a year. We train for about 5 hours a day broken up by field games and swimming. I would consider adding orienteering, rope skills and some outdoor survival skills, first aid. I would like to add one or two more camp outs of about 3 days. Do you all think that would help particularly the ages of 10 to 17?

Update 2:

Judomofo was your lovely wife looking over your shoulder just then... I have been a Scout Master for years. The kids coming into the Scouts have fewer and fewer skills. I have even had to teach some to read their scout manual. It is seriously starting to concern me.

Update 3:

Jjgirl conflict resolution is part of our core curriculum for all levels of students from little ones to adult. All the schools we associate with, that is, have loose ties to have similar core values and teach self control and verbal skills. We teach it is better to talk your way out than fight it out. However ….. Do what you must to get home in one piece.

Update 4:

jjgirl we do role playing in conflict resolution. We have the students act out different scenarios. We of course to avoid law suits have to keep them age appropriate. But you need to get used to people trying to yell at you and verbally assault you without you loosing it. That way you maintain more control of the outcome. Kids are fast learners in this regard, often faster than the adults

Update 5:

Great answers and suggestions. I have over 20 years experience in Scouting. I have been thought their youth leadership training. I was just wondering aloud if it might benefit our students to bring some of this to them. Not to make them Scouts but to give them some life skills. In the old traditional way of teaching these skills were part of the training. It might be good to bring some back. It is clear many are not getting these skills any place else. For instance: most can't read a road map, tie their shoes>>>>really, Solve simple problems, understand team work, and plan anything beyond the next minuet. We than wonder why they are so troubled.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Bah how does that prepare them for life!

    Teach them how to survive in a cubical for 8 hours a day doing a job they hate and getting paid peanuts, while dealing with management who doesn't know their head from a hole in the ground...then coming home to a nagging wife, and kids who demand constant attention. Coupled with having to do Yard Work on the weekend!

    Then see how far they can stretch an100 bucks on groceries to 3 weeks...

    NOW THAT IS LIFE SKILLS!

    LOL...

    Naw seriously, I think what you stated is a good character building thing, plus it is fun. I would be wary simply of potential liabilities and ensure that the people you have teaching outdoor survival skills and orienteering actually have some solid formal training.

    (There have been boy scout troupes who have gotten lost, or injured).

    First aid is always good to train, but again, ask for local volunteer Paramedics or Firefighters... it is great to teach kids this stuff, but in this day and age ensure that you cover your butt, because if some kid breaks his ankle or something, you are going to need something behind you to convince the parents that it was an accident and not neglect or imcompetence.

    Maybe that sounds paranoid and all, but people have blackbelts for a reason in Martial Arts, and there are people with similar certifications in outdoorsmanship and first aid, in any case you always want experts teaching.

    But it sounds like a great idea...

    (For the record, I have my own office, love my job, make good money, have an awesome, beautiful and wonderful wife who treats me like a king, and my baby isn't born yet... also I have a great guy who does my yard lol)

    Source(s): 20+years Martial Arts.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    That's not a bad idea! Personally, I think martial arts is good for young people because it teaches valuable life lessons like respect, discipline, balance, etc. Most people under the age of 21 have no concept of these words.

    The problem is: How would you apply martial arts training in a real-world context geared toward development of problem-solving skills? Are you talking about something more akin to martial arts of centuries past, where training did not take place inside a building for the most part? I could see how that would help a student learn that a real-life confrontation that may require self-defense is never as "neat and tidy" as one practiced in a Dojo, however, I'm still having trouble understanding how one would use martial arts skills solving problems in a real-world context...But hey, if you can find a way to make it work, I think it would be valuable.

    Source(s): I hold a black belt in the Korean martial art of Kuk Sool Won and am working on my 2nd degree black belt
  • 5 years ago

    There are no best arts, only best artists. there are no short paths. Try to find the best school in your area and train there. You feel that self-defense is something that can be bought I believe. Even if someone sells you a "self-defense course" as you are looking for it will not work. If you don't constantly practice this stuff (preferably against other people) it will fail you in a critical moment. Attacks done in the street are committed by criminals. They always have an advantage be surprise, strength, numbers, weapons, etc. These criminals practice this behavior time and again. Not in dojo's or gyms, but for real on victims. Victims never get real practice, only simulated training. Walk wisely my friend, most situations can be avoided with self and environmental awareness.

  • 1 decade ago

    SiFu,

    Let me start by saying; I have followed some of your responses and would like to express how much I appreciate your commitment to the art.

    I have raised to boys into adulthood and now have the opportunity to watch my two stepchildren grow up. I would like to see the kids practice more role play. Not necessarily inside or outside the gym, but as a one on one confrontation that begins verbal and is handled with confidence and control. I know this discipline will come in due time, but I don't think it is practiced enough.

    It has been my experience with (especially preteens) the youths, the first sign of confrontation can "get the juices flowing". I would like to find away to teach them how to tunnel their thoughts to a sensible solution opposed to a physical one.

    Horseback riding is a good way for them to get in touch with nature. My brother used to let underprviledged kids come to his ranch. they would help with feeding the animals and would get to ride them as their reward.

    I hope my response has contributed. Thank you.

    Source(s): Sempei-Yoshin Ryu Jujitsu
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  • 1 decade ago

    sounds like a sound idea but be more specific. what do you want these kids to know, necessarily? will it encourage parental support for your program or will it provoke fears that their kids are going to turn out for the worse?

    if you're talking like..literal outdoor survival skills then that'd be a great opportunity to teach a skill and to have a bonding adventure with your school. that kinda stuff brings up moral.

    street self defense is something my sifu has experimented with. he specified a day and the kids came in dressed in street clothes and we worked self defense drills not necessarily specific to kung fu and we worked abduction drills. "a badguy grabs you and tries to bring you into his van. what do you do?"

    other than tht where were you thinking of going?

  • 1 decade ago

    I don't know about "life skills"but I try to get my guys out of our jammies and into the park at least 1/ month because the world is not covered in tatemi and if you can't pull techniques on terrain in your plain clothes then all the dojo learning isn't worth much.

    And it is a lot of fun.

    P.S. if you do train outside in public you may want to give the local P.D. a heads up so they don't think some sort of "brawl" is going on

  • 1 decade ago

    No. People pay good money for Martial Arts training. To get the class together for outings is a great social benefit. My school in particular is great with such things, picnics and movie nights just to name a few.

    Wow, you go camping, I would love that!

    That is awesome! You ROCK!

  • 1 decade ago

    Can you give an example of what you mean?

    EDIT: I don't think it's a bad idea. It's kind of the "boy scouts" domain, but if you have interest from the students, and all the safety stuff taken care of (I'm sure you do) then go for it.

    James

  • 4 years ago

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  • 1 decade ago

    No that is not their job, It would be interesting if one offered what you described, but you teach what you know.

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