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Question about the Christian Trinity and how it works?
1. Is Jesus the son of G-d or a co-equal part, or something else?
2. If Jesus G-d, then he knew he was going to be crusified, then he never really died, so he never really rose from the dead, is that right or wrong? Did he only join the Trinity after? Was he cut off from G-d for the time he was on Earth?
3. I guess i am trying to figure out how G-d can die for our sins, if he cannot really die?
9 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
I really hope the answers made more sense to you than to me, because I just cannot get my head round this concept.
If Jesus was 'god', then how can 'god' be killed?
If Jesus was just a man, then his death was no different to the thousands of other men and women also crucified by the Romans.
As for Jesus being 'son of god' - why on earth would G-d select one mortal and raise him above all others? Why? What does it achieve?
- Anonymous1 decade ago
1) Jesus is part of the Triune God. That means He is the Son and also part of the whole God. Not 3 parts of a whole.
2)Jesus knew that He was going to be crucified. He also really died and rose again. He was always part of the Trinity, before and after. Yes, He was separated from the Trinity while on Earth, but not completely because He always remained God and could have chosen something different than sacrifice for us.
3) God walked among us as a man. That was the only way an immortal Creator could die for our sins.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
1. Yes, the son and a part of God.
2. His body died, his body was killed. He then rose 3 days later. He formed the 3 side of the trinity when he was reborn, as 'the son.' He prayed to God constantly, so no he was never cut off.
3. God, the creator cannot. His son, the man he brought into this world, who walked among us died, because of the world, for the worlds sins.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Lawyers...pffft. j/k. good question. The trinity was devised to get around accusations about Christians being polytheistic. They obviously created other problems lawyers would catch. Truth is, Christianity in it's original pure form is not monotheistic, it is henotheistic; the trinity is a creation of Christian apologists.
In the year a.d. 325 the Roman emperor Constantine convened the Council of Nicaea to address the growing issue of God’s alleged “trinity in unity" and polytheism. What emerged from the heated contentions of "churchmen, philosophers, and ecclesiastical dignitaries" came to be known as the Nicene Creed, with later reformulations such as the Athanasian Creed. These various evolutions of creeds declared the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost to be abstract, absolute, transcendent, immanent, consubstantial, coeternal, and unknowable, without body, parts, or passions and dwelling outside space and time. In such creeds all three members are separate persons, but they are a single being, the oft-noted “mystery of the trinity.”
1) Jesus is the Son of "God the Father" literally and he is also a God.
2) Jesus knew he would die, did die, and rose from the dead. In a sense He was cut off from God at times such as at the Garden of Gethsemane to Calvary, "Why hast thou forsaken me"....
3) Jesus was also mortal and inherited mortality through his mother.
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- A VoiceLv 51 decade ago
The "Trinity" is a false teaching in "Traditional Christianity". The Catholic Church introduced it around 325 AD and all of "Traditional Christianity" has followed it since.
The early Church never taught it and true followers of Jesus have never believed it. It is a lie.
Jesus was born of a virgin without sin because he did not have a human Father. Jesus fulfilled the whole law and became the lamb who paid the penalty for all mankinds sin. Because the penalty for sin is death and Jesus is the only one who never sinned he was not guilty and therefore was not subject to the penalty. God rose him from the dead and Jesus is now the firstfruit of God's eternal family - Elohim. Jesus is the World's Messiah and will return to establish God's righteous Government which will be for all e Eternity.
By the way, The Spirit of God is simply the power of God which comes from God. It is not a seperate person of God.
God has revealed his wonderful plan for man through his Sabbaths and appointed Feasts. Since most all of mankind fails in obedience to observe and keep those appointed Sabbaths then they do not understand his wonderful plan. I personally keep his Sabbath and am obedient in keeping the feasts. I am not a Jew, I am simply a follower of the Eternal God. Email me if you would like.
- TravelerLv 51 decade ago
God completely and voluntarily humbled himself to be a man. That mean all the frailties and weakness that comes with being a man. Did he know what will happen? Yes. Did he cause his death? No. It was the people's will that rejected and crucified him. Did he die? Yes, did he conquer death as he promised? Yes and the foolish Jews couldn't understand where the true temple was.
"18Then the Jews demanded of him, "What miraculous sign can you show us to prove your authority to do all this?"
19Jesus answered them, "Destroy this temple, and I will raise it again in three days." - John 2:18-19
Let me explain trinity a way you can understand...
When you say light, it's is not just the source of light which could be a candle or a lamp but also the beam that comes from the light and the warmth that come from the light. They are 3 separate entities but they are all light.
- 1 decade ago
how can the jesus christ be the god? he was feeling hungry,eating ,drinking, hiding from enemies ,resting in the shadow of a tree. how can such a creature be the God? he is a human being!
can you tell me where did he say I'm the God or Creator?
he always was referring to the real God who is his god as well
The Lord our God is ONE Lord (Deut 6:4; 4:35,39; 32:39; Mk 12:29)
There is ONE God (Rom 3:30; 1 Cor 8:6; 1 Tim 2:5; James 2:19)
There is no other God but ONE (1 Cor 8:4; Gal 3:20; Eph 4:6)
The ONLY true [wise] God (John 17:3; Rom 16:27; 1 Tim 1:17; Jude 25)
i wonder if you investigated the islamic faith?
we believe that the god is one ,he is the creator and jesus is merely a messenger of god.
and this what the jesus believed of himself, your other differnt beliefs were adopted from pagans! check below
Source(s): http://www.entheology.org/pocm/index.htm http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#link... - Anonymous1 decade ago
1- Jesus and God are of the same spiritual essence. All of Jesus is God but not all of God is Jesus. Jesus was a portion of God's spirit housed in flesh.
2- Jesus knew He would be sacrificed and willingly and humbly and obediently complied with His Fathers wishes. His Father was available in Spirit and prayer.
3- It was Jesus' flesh that died. His Spirit was quickened just as our Christian spirits will be
- 1 decade ago
1. As man is a soul, a body, and a spirit, God the Father is the Soul of the Trinity, God the Son is the Body, and God the Holy Ghost is the Spirit,
According the Bible, God is a Triune Being. As all humans are a trinity (soul, body, and spirit--see (1 Thessalonians 5:23, Hebrews 4:12).
In Genesis 1:26, God said, "Let us make man in our image. . ." In Genesis 11:7, God said, ". . . .let us go down, and there confound their language. . ." The terms "us" and "our" obviously refer to the Trinity.
We do not in any way believe in three gods. My God is one, and his name is the LORD (or, Yahweh, known to Orthodox Jews as HaShem). He revealed himself to us through his Son, the Messiah, who is the very image and reflection of God. And he touches us and speaks to us by his Spirit. These are deep, spiritual truths. Later theologians labeled this relationship the Trinity -- God as a triune One. But the word ‘Trinity’ is not found anywhere in the New Testament and it may confuse the issues for you.
2. How was he not crucified if He knew? We believe that the eternally preexistent Son of God, through whom the universe was made, came forth from God his Father and was clothed with human flesh, making himself known to us as Yeshua the Messiah. He lived on this earth, died, rose from the dead, and returned to his Father. He now sits enthroned in heaven next to God. We understand that Jesus, the Son of God, is the very image of God, the one in whom God caused his fullness to dwell, the one through whom he revealed himself completely to mankind. Since the Son came forth from the Father and shares his divine nature, in one sense it is quite correct to say that Jesus is God (or, divine, or deity), always bearing in mind that the overwhelming testimony of the New Testament writings is that Jesus is the Son of God. I can show you from the Hebrew Scriptures that there is absolutely nothing idolatrous about what I believe. God has always revealed himself to his people. He did it most permanently and most fully through Jesus his Son.
3. Jesus as God did not really die - Jesus as man did.
Note Exodus 33:20, John 1:18; I Timothy 6:16; etc. No man can see God in the glory of His triune personal presence, but He often revealed Himself through “the angel of His presence” (e.g., Isaiah 63:9), that is, a pre-incarnate “theophany” of Christ.
God appeared many times in the OT in human form:
And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground, And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy sight, pass not away, I pray thee, from thy servant: Let a little water, I pray you, be fetched, and wash your feet, and rest yourselves under the tree: And I will fetch a morsel of bread, and comfort ye your hearts; after that ye shall pass on: for therefore are ye come to your servant. And they said, So do, as thou hast said. -(Genesis 18:1-5).
The writer of Hebrews refers to this event when he says that “some have entertained angels unawares” (Hebrews 13:2). Later the two angels move on to communicate with Lot in Sodom (Genesis 18:22) while the Lord remained to talk further with Abraham.
Corinthians 9:20 And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law.
He became like one of us, so that we might come to him.
Source(s): http://www.realmessiah.com/ http://www.icr.org/ Over 300 Messianic Prophecies Prophecies Fulfilled by Jesus Christ, Messiah:http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Believer's%20Corner...