Still think Christian persecution is "all in our heads?"?

My aunt and uncle were killed in Mosul in 2004 along with two other Sourthern Baptist missionaries. Their car was hit by an RPG and the occupants were sprayed with bullets. They had been career missionaries for 26 years and were shifting their focus to Iraq. They were travelling through Mosul after having been looking for a place to dig a well.

The perscution of Chrstians has been on going in Iraq throughout the war, not just in Mosul. Many Christians have had to flee all over Iraq for fear of their lives. Under Saddam Christians had a measure of protection, but that went out the door after the U.S. invasion.

Muslim persecution of other religions, not just Christians, is taking place all the time in many parts of the world. Over a million Sudanese Christians have been killed by the Muslim controlled government.

All the predominately Muslim areas of the world are Muslim due to evangelism by way of the sword. The Quran teaches to kill the infidels that will not convert, and for centuries non-Muslims have fallen victim to that doctrine. Many of the crusades were a reaction to this evangelism at the point of a sword. Revisionists try to stamp the crusades as all about the evil Christians, but they helped stop the deadly Muslim evangelism which was working it's way into Europe.

Sudan is a modern example of genocide against Christians as the Muslim government is erradicating the non-Muslims with a goal of a predominately Muslim state.

Turkey was once the cradle of Chrstianity. Today it is 99.8% Muslim. It's estimated that 2 million Armenian Christians were murdered there a little more than a century ago.

As the link to this article states, the Christians are having to flee Mosul because they have been been told to convert of die. It's the same old story in the long history of Islamic persecution of non-Muslims.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/10/11/iraq.vio...

I've been involved with missions work in the Middle East. The truely orthodox Muslim longs for a one world Muslim state headed by a single Caliph. The Muslim terrorists of today want to create chaos in the world, killing the infidels, as part of ushering in that dream. One Career missionary I know who coordinates missions activities in North Africa spoke at my church. He explained that one would be hard pressed to find Muslims in that part of the world that did not look favorably at 911 because God looks favorably at the killing of the infidel.

So, it's not just Christians who are at risk of persecution, but all non-Muslims.

Our world is still living in The Crusades. Some historians call our present time "The tenth Crusade". I see intolerance everywhere. Nobody has the right to kill others in the name of their beliefs. I think religious authorities (it doesn't matter what religion we're talking about) poison people's mind because of their political interests. There's no respect to each other in this world. Remember the Ulster, remember Bosnia, remember Kurdistan, remember Lebanon and some countries in Africa, remember China... Sometimes victims are Christians, sometimes are Catholics, sometimes are Muslims, sometimes are Buddhists and so on...

What a horror...

I never said no Christians ever or have ever gotten persecuted. I know history. All religions have been misunderstood shamefully, and harmed.

My parents are missionaries. I saw what they want through, at times. I was there.

-Atheist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_atheis...

(The link is of the persecution and discrimination of atheists)

The majority of christians who shout "persecution" the loudest are usually those sitting comfortably in their lounges who think that persecution is either not agreeing with them ot hiding their remote controls.

Unfortunately, what you have cited, the killings in Mosul, are the sorts of things that have been going on in the region forcenturies: Muslims killing Christians, Christians killing Muslims, both picking on the jews.

This truly is persecution and I decry it. These kind of actions are born of fanaticism of the worst kind.

That being said, I do not think its persecution to have separation of church and state in the United States. Also, the jibes here are not persecution. You all need to have a realistic world view.

Violence? In Iraq!?! The Middle East is normally such a bastion of peacefulness, especially Iraq.

We may not be getting beheaded but it is obvious that we are getting outlawed. The Bible, 10 Commandments, Nativities, praying, quoting the Bible in courts, taking down the landmark Crosses are being outlawed.

The new thought police are coming since we believe in the value of a human life, think homosexuality is unnatural, think marriage should be between a man and a woman. Though we think hope in God is for everyone we are considered intolerant.

People are ignorant if they don't know Christians are being persecuted worldwide and the churches are being destroyed at a record pace.

I don't want to sound unsympathetic but persecution of the minority happens in unstable countries like that. I mean, it still happens here but not nearly to that degree. Also, I've never said that Christian persecution doesn't happen at all, I've simply said that it doesn't happen here. Any questions I've seen about it have been in the context of the persecution in the U.S. So yeah.

For the record I have never said Christian persecution anywhere OUTSIDE the US is in anyone's haeds. And I think I speak for every atheist in saying no one else thinks that too.

But in the US, yes you do have it easy which is why I, and other atheist, have very little patience for American Christians who act like they're martyr whenever some calls their beliefs stupid. Oh waaah! There's Christains in other countries who get their brains shot out just for believing in what they do. I have more respect for Christians outside the US than within. In fact I'll go as far as to say there's more more true Christians outside the US than within because the fact that Christianity is so mainstream here, it's far too easy for anyone to pass as Christian and not be really genuine. Which is why you end up with so many hypocrite Christians in the US who mistakenly feel that the only way to prove they're Christian is to bash gays, atheists, and people of other faiths.

So ask yourself...why are there so many Christians who support the war in Iraq when most of the soldiers in the US Army are Christian and we're sending them to Iraq to get killed while the Iraqi Muslims are killing and persecuting Christians?