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Is the Mormon church built on a lie?

The founder of the LDS church, Joseph Smith, had a supposed vision and then we find 8+ versions of that same vision. 8 CONTRADICTORY VERSIONS. How can that be truth?

This is Joseph Smith's hand written first vision that is NOT the LDS accepted version. http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/firstvisionjos...

The Book of Mormon. There is not one piece of North American archeology to support the claims of the Book of Mormon. No people, no cities, no coins, no chariot, no weapons. Not one scrap of the civilizations mentioned in the Book of Mormon has ever been unearthed! Where is the very basic foundational support for the Book of Mormon? See http://ezek27.truepath.com/biology1a.html

See the statements from both the Smithsonian Institute and the National Geographic concerning the Book of Mormon at: http://ezek27.truepath.com/smithsonian.html

Prophecy. Joseph Smith made numerous predictions that never came true and were given a specific date. Please see: http://ezek27.truepath.com/mmm.html

http://www.bcmmin.org/smithevi.html

Deut. 18:22 gives us the standard a Prophet of God must meet. Does this verse disqualify Joseph Smith?

"When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. Deut. 18:22

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Joseph Smith was proven to be a phony MANY times. I recommend reading KINGDOM OF THE CULTS by Walter Martin. It will surely enlighten you!

    Most of us have had a Mormon Missionary knock at our door. If you have ever invited them in and listened to a presentation of their beliefs, you probably found most but not all of what they said very similar to those beliefs held by Christians. However, while trying to convince you that your Church is wrong and the Mormon Church is right, there are several points they intentionally leave out. Below is a list of Mormon beliefs the missionaries will be reluctant to tell you about:

    They will be reluctant to tell you that the God they worship was not always God.

    "We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 345)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe Jesus Christ is the spirit brother of Satan:

    "The appointment of Jesus to be the Savior of the world was contested by one of the other sons of God. He was called Lucifer, son of the morning. Haughty, ambitious, and covetous of power and glory, this spirit-brother of Jesus desperately tried to become the Savior of mankind." (Milton R. Hunter, Gospel Through the Ages, pg.15)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that, according to Mormonism, Jesus Christ was a polygamist.

    "I discover that some of the Eastern papers represent me as a great blasphemer, because I said, in my lecture on Marriage, at our last Conference, that Jesus Christ was married at Cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children." (Orson Hyde, Journal of Discourses 2:210)

    The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Christ and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based upon polygamy, according to the testimony of the philosophers who rose in that age. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons'" (Jedediah M. Grant, Journal of Discourses, 1:346)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that for at least half a century church leaders were teaching that Adam was really God and the only God with whom we have to do.

    "Now hear it, O inhabitants of the earth, Jew and Gentile, Saint and sinner! When our father Adam came into the garden of Eden, he came into it with a celestial body, and brought Eve, one of his wives, with him. He helped to make and organize this world. He is Michael, the Archangel, the Ancient of Days! about whom holy men have written and spoken--He is our Father, and our God, and the only God with whom we have to do." (Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses 1:50)

    "I have learned by experience that there is but one God that pertains to this people and he is the god that pertains to this earth--The first man. That first man sent his own son to redeem the world..."(Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses 4:1)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that Brigham Young, who held the office of President of the Mormon church longer than any other man, taught that men must practice polygamy in order to become Gods.

    "The only men who become Gods, even the Sons of God, are those who enter into polygamy." (Journal of Discourses 11:269)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that the book of Mormon fails to contain any Mormon doctrine

    Many portions of this Mormon Scripture even contradicts Mormon theology.

    They will be reluctant to tell you about their secret temple ceremonies which, until April 1990, portrayed Christian ministers as hirelings of Satan. Nor will they tell you about the sacred underwear they are wearing which, they believe, actually protects them.

    They will be reluctant to tell you that Mormon leaders have taught that Jesus was conceived by way of a sexual relationship between God and Mary.

    "..how are children begotten? I answer just as Jesus Christ was begotten of his father. The difference between Jesus Christ and other men is this: Our fathers in the flesh are mortal men, who are subject unto death: but the Father of Jesus Christ in the flesh is the god of Heaven" (Joseph F. Smith, Family Home Evening Manual, 1972, pg. 125)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that they believe the bible has been corrupted throughout the centuries and cannot be trusted fully by itself.

    "I believe the Bible as it read when it came from the pen of the original writers. Ignorant translators, careless transcribers, or designing and corrupt priests have committed many errors." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph smith, pg.327)

    "But the Bible has been robbed of its plainness; many sacred books having been lost, others rejected by the Romish Church, and what few we have left, were copied and recopied so many times, that it is admitted that almost every verse has been corrupted and mutilated to that degree that any two of them read alike." (Orson Pratt, The Seer, pg.213)

    They will be reluctant to tell you that the Book of Mormon and the Doctrine and Covenants, which they claim to be both sacred and without error, contradict each other many times.

    For example, in the Book of Mormon, God called David and Solomon's act of polygamy an abomination, whereas in the Doctrine and Covenants He claims to justify it. Jacob 2:24 in the Book of Mormon says, "Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord." Section 132:1 in the Doctrine and Covenants, however, states: "Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you my servant Joseph, that inasmuch as you have inquired of my hand to know and understand wherein I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines."

    They will be reluctant to tell you that they use Christian terms with Mormon meanings.

    For example, a Mormon would probably agree with you that a person must be born again. To the Mormon, however, "born again" is a process which begins with water baptism. Another example are the words "salvation" and exaltation," which are synonymous in the Christian's mind. However, general salvation to the Mormon merely means the resurrection which everyone in the world will receive at death. Exaltation, or individual salvation, is the reward earned by the Mormon by following the laws of the Moron church. "Eternal Life" to the Mormon means Godhood. Regarding the word "scriptures," the Christian thinks of the Holy Bible while the Mormon could be thinking of not only the Bible but the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price as well.

    They won't want to tell you that in order to gain entrance into the highest form of Mormon heaven, the Celestial kingdom, you must accept Joseph Smith, Jr. as a prophet of god. Faith in Jesus alone, Mormonism teaches, will force you to spend eternity in a lower form of heaven.

    Tenth LDS President Joseph Fielding Smith stated in his book, doctrines of Salvation, that there is "No salvation without accepting Joseph Smith. The word "salvation," used in this context, must really mean "exaltation" because former Mormon apostle Bruce R. McConkie stated in his book Mormon Doctrine that general salvation is given to everyone regardless of belief. Personal salvation or exaltation to the highest form of Mormon heaven comes only by accepting Joseph Smith as a prophet of god and by following the laws of the LDS church.

    They will be reluctant to tell you that their founder, Joseph Smith, Jr., made many false prophecies which, according to the Bible, would classify him as a false prophet rather than a true prophet of God.

    For instance, in 1835 Smith claimed that the Lord would again come in just 56 years. We would gather from this "prophecy" that Jesus Christ would again come to earth on or before 1891; no doubt Joseph Smith was incorrect (History of the church 2:182). In 1832 Joseph Smith claimed he had a revelation concerning the building of a temple in Independence, Missouri. According to section 84, verses 4 and 5, of the Doctrine and Covenants, he stated this "temple shall be reared in this generation. For verily this generation shall not pass away until an house shall be built unto the Lord, and a cloud shall rest upon it..." to this day the spot consecrated by Smith fails to be the sight of a great temple, but instead is covered with a well-kept lawn. In fact, the Mormon church does not even own the land.

    HAVE YOU EVER BEEN SAVED?

    Is there a time and place in your life, when you trusted in the blood of Jesus Christ? Not joined a church, not kept the sacraments, not baptism, not good works — but simply, by faith, prayed and asked Jesus Christ to save you?

    To die without Jesus Christ will be the worst thing you could ever do...

    "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the LAKE OF FIRE." Revelation 20:15

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    PS&QS has it right. No one ever says anything against the men who raped, murdered, plundered, stole, and destroyed members of the church and their belongings. No one ever mentions that they were driven from state to state because people hated them for their religion (even though they were US citizens UNDER THE CONSTITUTION... where we are guaranteed religious freedom). Whoever mentioned the mountain meadows massacre is a little uneducated apparently. He must not have a clue about the THOUSANDS of people the Catholic church, and other Christian denominations, have killed in the past. The Catholic Church has caused much more bloodshed than Mormons have, by far. And the Massacre happened because on some unfortunate misunderstandings of directions given.... not that it justifies killing people, though. But the men who were repsponsible for the Massacre were imprisoned. It is something the Church still regrets deeply and still apologizes for. People don't know a whole lot about Mormons, and there are many misconceptions about them out there. It's because they were hated so badly when the Church first started, so the hatred still sticks around a little bit today. And many people get the FLDS, RLDS, and LDS churches confused. They are three completely seperate organizations with different beliefs, but people get them mixed up and that makes them think LDS people are polygamists who marry girls off at 15 or make them slaves.

  • 7 years ago

    To all the people who parrot the idea that religions have a negative affect on mankind consider this. Before the Christian era, historians tell us there were no orphanages, hospitals, charities and medical organizations in the world as we know them today. The foundation of much of what makes the world bearable, civilized, and comfortable - whether it fits your stereotype or not - is the fact that many people believe in a faith that leads them to behave in an altruistic way that they wouldn't otherwise. Yes, the Mormon faith is based on some questionable history, but before throwing stones at these faiths that bless the world, ask yourself what you are doing personally to make the world a better place than these people. Otherwise you just meaningless dirt that will never be remembered.

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

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    Some of these answers prove your point! They are under the impression that they can say whatever they want to say, and their opinion is covered by the rightness of this forum. I don't agree! ignorance is ignorance! Just look at the reference to the Mountain Meadows Massacre! The men who did that were members of a group of people that had been chased from state, to state! No sooner had the LDS members settled into new homes, they were burned out, women were raped, and husbands murdered, by mobs, made of of ''good christinas''. In Missouri, there was a bounty on ''Mormons''! signed by the governor, no less! Oh, but that was perfectly fine with everyone! Nothing was ever done to any of the men who raped Mormon women and killed them! Nothing was ever done to the mobs, who murdered Joseph Smith, and his brother Hyrum! Nothing was ever done to the ''mobs'' that murdered,and burned out families, from New York. to Nebraska!! The men who carried out the Mountain Meadows Massacre were imprisoned,and the leader of the group was shot by a firing squad! It seems to me that all of these so called'' good people'' who answer these questions about the LDS Church, should study 'their bible'', and stop being such hypocrites! If you don't like the idea of this church? THEN MOVE ON!!! But, keep your opinions to yourselves!

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Yeah, but you're not supposed to show facts against that religion or propose theories. If you do, you're a hater.... Believe me, there will be many hateful answers and this question will be deleted. You see I'm already being hated for spreading my beliefs, I tried asking a question on what LDS and it was deleted... The religion might be a lie, but the people for the most part are kind.

    Man there aren't a lot of LDS members on today, that is strange.

    Source(s): He has a gun! *People scream*
  • Moe
    Lv 5
    5 years ago

    Yes. It's 100% B.S.

  • 1 decade ago

    I don't think in the beginning he was lying.I think he got full of himself.He turned what God gave him into a lie- a very,very profitable lie.But, the people who follow that lie are responsible as well. The scriptures teach that we must study to show ourselves approved.If we study the scriptures ourselves.We ,hopefully, won't get sucked into these types of groups.But, there are many other groups that are just as wrong. The LDS get a very bad wrap.

  • 4 years ago

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  • pax
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

    Mormon Lies

  • 5 years ago

    a disgusting cult run by pedos ....started by a disgraced Freemason... end of story. That is all you need to know.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I'm not going to bother to read the body of your question. The title is more than enough for me to answer in the affirmative.

    Doesn't really make a difference what religion it is...

    Atheistically yours,

    JM Gendron.

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