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Why are people writing dates like "29 October, 2008" instead of the normal English order?

I'm seeing this more often recently, and I absolutely hate it!

"October 29th, 2008" is certainly the typical order of stating a date in English - although it's generally simplified to "October 29, 2008" or "Oct 29, 2008" in writing. Was there some change in guidelines that has brought about a large number of people writing "29 October, 2008?"

In particular, there has been a huge increase in using this date format in Wikipedia recently. I have edited a few pages back to the conventional order as a statement, but I would like to protest more formally. Does anyone know a link to a discussion board on this?

Thanks~.

Update:

I realize that dates come across in that order in several languages:

El 29 de octubre, 2008

Le 29 octobre, 2008

Am 29. Oktober 2008

Etc.

And it makes sense to write it in that order in those languages since that's the order they are given in speaking. However, I don't see a reason to write a date in a different order from how it's read. Why artificially impose the order of one language in the writing of another?

On a lesser note, the American order of month/day/year is certainly a little weird in that it goes medium/small/big. However it does reflect the general importance we give:

The month gives you a general sense of when

The day specifies it

And the year is added almost as an afterthought to further specify the date

Of all orders, I find the Asian (Japanese, Chinese etc.) order of year/month/date as most logical as it goes from largest to smallest.

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I tend to use 29 October 2008 because I am an amateur genealogist, and it's a sort of convention among those of us who are interested in the hobby. It's also not far off from saying, "The 29th [day of] of October, 2008" as I would if I were talking. Its meaning is clear, and that's what is important to me.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I'm afraid the other answerers are right. The only place in the world where the month comes before the date is here in America. America seems to have an obsession with being different from everybody else, even in spelling and grammar. The proper international way to write a date is date before month. Everyone in the world would recognize this format as correct, whereas only Americans would see it as wrong.

    Edit: They're not really imposing it, because the majority of English speakers do read it that way. If you were from England, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, or Canada, you would see and read it as, "the 29th of October 2008." I guess Wikipedia would just rather use a format that applies all across the board rather than one that caters to one particular nationality. Just the way things are.

  • 1 decade ago

    "Normal english order?" You mean American i guess...in Australia we write it 29 Oct 2008

  • 1 decade ago

    When I'm formatting my typed work for English class, we're supposed to use that order. Probably because it looks professional and formal.

    Source(s): English class
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  • 1 decade ago

    That is the normal way for the military and for places outside the USA

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Month/Day/Year may be the norm in USA but in most places it Day/Month/Year.

    America isn't the superpower leader of the whole world you know. Things are done differently in other places, so just get over it.

  • 1 decade ago

    Most Europeans and English use that format.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    you have a losing argument.

    Outside of the USA the standard is

    day/month/year as opposed to the American month/day year.

  • 1 decade ago

    why not start you're own - sorry! I meant your own -

    political party where you fight for the rights of

    all dispossessed words and punctuation of

    the world?

    Source(s): call it the punc-2-8-n party? sound like a good idea?
  • 1 decade ago

    everywhere else its month date year lol

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