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Those who blame the victims...?
for their own sexual assault on the "way they were dressed." How do you explain women in some middle eastern cultures who are required to cover from head to toe, and are STILL raped? Obviously, they weren't dressing provocatively, so what sort of logic-twisting feats of rationale will you perform to blame the victim in this scenario? I'm sure it will very creative, no doubt.
May I direct everyone's attention to "Male Supremacist's" answer. He states that when women are dressed provocatively, THEY are to blame for their rape. If they are dressed modestly, the onus is on the rapist. Logic-twisting, indeed. It makes about as much sense as the Ancient Mycenaean law which stated that "If a woman is in the mountains, and she is raped, the rapist is at fault. If the woman is in the home, and she is raped, she is at fault." Obviously, there is quite a long tradition of victim blaming. And the "logic" is still the same: Women who don't "do as their told," and don't conform to patriarchal standards, get what's coming to 'em. Right?
"Tall order" --If you would be so kind as to look down the GWS page, you will see question upon question that seeks to blame the victim. And it comes up quite a lot. I am addressing that phenomenon, in particular. As for your accusations regarding the use of the term rape, I SEE FAR MORE MEN bring it up than women. Please do post some questions where "rape" is used by feminists to malign men in this section (more than a couple will be required to indicate any sort of trend), and I will consider what you are saying. (In fact, I think rape is often used here by some anti-feminists as a means to shame WOMEN, and I CAN provide examples). Otherwise, I will have to conclude that your assumptions are bullshit. Thanks in advance.
But Eoghan, that suggestion suggests that women are "asking for it" when they dress a certain way. My point is, if "dressing a certain way" is what causes lunatics to attack you, then why do women who dress modestly also get attacked? If the suggestion is that dressing a certain way makes you MORE LIKELY to be attacked, then why don't statistics bear this out? Most women who are attacked are dressed "normally." Most rapists state that it is not clothing, or even the girls' appearance that turns them on, but the idea of dominating and hurting someone. How do you explain that?
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- 1 decade agoFavorite Answer
"Tall order" - put me in that group - oh please.
BYW - Didn't answer the question did you, or anyone else? Tall order did exactly what Wendy G is talking about - shifting the blame - now it's women's fault just because they keep talking about rape on the Gender and Women's Studies Answers site. Where else should we discuss these things, Mr. Tall Order?
Sheeeeeeeesh!
- LouLv 61 decade ago
Bees are attracted to honey and I read a report that men who rape females they don't know take into consideration what the woman is wearing. It's different again for men who rape women they do know the two rapes and the situations around the rapes are completely different.
A lot of time when you read and I have read police reports of rapes and sat in court you can sometimes see the rape or something coming and even women can see it coming.
Ultimately though there is no excuse for rape.
- 1 decade ago
Okay.
If a girls sleeps around with everyone/anyone, her chances are being raped are probably higher, because she is 'easy' to begin with.
But a girl dressed in baggy jeans, a turtleneck sweater, who doesn't go clubbing on a Saturday night is likely as well.
Rapists will get their hands on anyone. It doesn't matter what she wears, that's the bottomline.
But, if you are at a party and you are drinking, and you met a stranger, and you think he's good-looking, and he asks you if you'd like to go up to his room for some 'quiet', and you do, and something bad happens, some of the decisions you made on your part weren't good decisions. And if that girls stayed sober and didn't go up alone in a stranger's room with rapists existing everywhere, it most likely wouldn't have happened.
But ALL IN ALL, it is NEVER the victims fault. That's bologna.
- bearaliceLv 61 decade ago
Stranger rape is not as common as the fear mongers would have us believe..we are much more likely to be raped by someone we know...how do explain the rape of children, elderly women, women with learning difficulties, christ women in comas have been raped..all provocatively dressed?
The blame for rape lies solely with the rapist...women need to take responsibility for beoing aware of the realities of rape. We are not judged equally with mne regarding sex so relaise that...when we say no, it may not always be accepted as such. So, if you have had sex with 15 men one after the other and the 16th you say no to, and he rapes you, my feminist beliefs mean that she had the right to say no, but society and some men would fudge the issue, bringing HER character into it and not those of the 16 men!
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- Philosopher JohnLv 41 decade ago
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No victim of rape is to blame.
Rape is a form of violence, brought about by the abuse of physical power or circumstance. I mean Circumstance to be like a position of trust abused. The circumstance may be opportunistic or premeditated.
~The way we dress may simply target us or single us out to
the perpetrator.
~In this way I believe our dress sense is a contributing
factor but should not be seen as permission.
Sexual predators often have preferences like;
Height, Age, Hair color, Body type, Gender
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Source(s): An opinion based on first hand knowledge in "Corrections" (I work in a jail and I am around them daily) - SLv 71 decade ago
Even if the victim was dressed provacatively, it's still not her fault. People have the right to dress however they want without fear of being harmed.
And to the people who say it's the victim's fault if she dresses provacatively:You guys are sick! Nobody actually wants to be raped, are you people that stupid? I can dress however I want and no matter how I dress there's no way I'd want something like that to happen to me! I don't control other people's actions, they do.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Most males in most cultures. Females are defined across cultural lines as temptresses. Seducers. Males have been and are still perceived as the victims of these seductively activities.. What hogwash. Hey guys, no means no It's accepted that most males are physically stronger than most females. There are definite signs that display rape. Girls, if any of you feel raped, go to the closest ER for an examination. It will support your statement.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Of course this rape myth is pure hokum, pay no attention. Its a transparent effort to blame the victim. How else would the serial rapes of elderly nuns be explained? How do elderly nuns commonly dress? Were the nuns irresponsible and lacking in common sense, as was suggested above?
MONTREAL - "Michel Letourneau has been sexually assaulting elderly nuns since 1992, and now a Crown prosecutor wants him declared a dangerous offender.
Louise Blais said Letourneau, 47, posed as a doctor and told the nuns he had to speak to them about the illness of a nephew or friend. Once he gained their confidence, he sexually assaulted them.
He assaulted one of his 11 victims 13 times. The nuns ranged in age from 62 to 83; the 11th victim was a 91-year-old layperson.
Defence lawyer Karine Giguere said her client has softened his ways since first being convicted in 1992 of sexually assaulting nuns.
This time around, she said, there were no physical scars and when a victim refused to perform oral sex, Letourneau simply left.
"He defrauded them and manipulated them," she said. "But he's aware of what he did."
In 1992, Letourneau served a 42-month sentence for similar crimes, and in 1996 was again sentenced to 10 years for sexually assaulting nuns. Once released in 2006, he began preying on elderly nuns once again.
If given the dangerous offender label, Letourneau would stay in jail until a judge deems he is no longer a risk to society.
Judge Jean Falardeau will hand down his decision Oct. 31."
Source(s): 'Crown seeks dangerous offender status for serial nun rapist' http://www.globaltv.com/globaltv/calgary/story.htm... - RoValeLv 71 decade ago
The problem is, what exactly constitutes wearing "revealing clothes"? In some cultures that can mean nothing more than exposing a wrist or an ankle.
- PyroLv 61 decade ago
Ugh. I know exactly who you're talking about, and I've been leaving very long and angry answers on his questions. It's so sickening that they think this way. It is NEVER the fault of the victim.