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J S
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J S asked in EnvironmentGlobal Warming · 1 decade ago

Did NASA Director Dr. James Hansen get it right in predicting cold weather this year?

NASA Director Dr. James Hansen explained way back in January through March that we're experiencing an unusually strong La Nina cooling influence in the Northern Hemisphere (only).

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2...

http://www.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2...

Was Dr. Hansen simply lucky to correctly predict ongoing cold weather (with the hotter phase of the El Nino Southern Oscillation not returning until '09/'10), or was his prediction right based on a solid understanding of that particular inflence on short term weather cycles?

Update:

"even averaged over a month, local weather anomalies (dynamical fluctuations, more-or-less independent of forced long-term climate change) are much larger than the global mean temperature change of recent decades. Weather fluctuations or ‘noise’ have a noticeable effect even on monthly-mean global-mean temperature, especially in Northern Hemisphere winter. Weather has little effect on global-mean temperature averaged over several months or more. The primary cause of variations on time scales from a few months to a few years is ocean dynamics, especially the Southern Oscillation (El Nino – La Nina cycle), although an occasional large volcano can have a cooling effect that lasts a few years. The 10-11 year cycle of solar irradiance has a just barely detectable effect on global temperature, no more than about 0.1°C, much less noticeable than El Nino/La Nina fluctuations."

Update 2:

The sun, sunspots, it's all in there if you click on those blue things ("links").

"The solar minimum forcing is thus about 0.15 W/m2 relative to the mean solar forcing. For comparison, the human-made GHG climate forcing is now increasing at a rate of about 0.3 W/m2 per decade (http://pubs.giss.nasa.gov/docs/2004/2004_Hansen_Sa...

"Furthermore, recent sighting of the first sunspot of reversed polarity (http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=04&... and (http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2008/20080104_... signifies that the ~ 4-year period of increasing solar irradiance is about to get underway."

"Summary. The Southern Oscillation and the solar cycle have significant effects on yearto-year global temperature change. Because both of these natural effects were in their cool phases in 2007, the unusual warmth of 2007 is all the more notable. It is apparent that there is no letup in the steep global warming trend of the past 30 years"

Update 3:

Looks like a cool forecast is imminent:

"La Nina cooling in the second half of 2007 (Figure 2) is about as intense as the regional cooling associated with any La Nina of the past half century"

"Effect of the current La Nina on global surface temperature is likely to

continue for at least the first several months of 2008."

But then he nails it:

"Competing with the short-term solar and La Nina cooling effects is the long-term global warming effect of human-made GHGs. The latter includes the trend toward less Arctic sea ice that markedly increases high latitude Northern Hemisphere temperatures. Although sea ice cover fluctuates from year to year, the large recent loss of thick multi-year ice implies that this warming effect at high latitudes should persist.

Based on these considerations, it is unlikely that 2008 will be a year with an unusual global temperature change, i.e., it is likely to remain close to the range of (high) values exhibited in 2002-2007."

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Pretty close, although it's more accurate to say that 2008 is in the range of (low) values exhibited in '02-'07.

    Hansen of course nailed the reasoning though. A strong La Niña cycle and low point in the 11 year solar cycle were only able to offset a little bit of the long-term anthropogenic warming trend.

    Not surprising that Hansen got this right, considering that he's one of the foremost climate scientists on the planet with one of the best understandings of climatic influences.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Great links, and that last nail-in-the-coffin paragraph can be used in many an answer on this site.

    Hansen got it right. The peach trees in the general area will have no problem getting the needed cold hours this winter, but the laurel sumac may have a hard time of it. Just two examples off the top of my head to show that not everything out there can add layers or turn up the head, and that some things are better adapted to experiencing prolonged cold, others are not.

  • davem
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Hansen rewrote climatic data to suit his agenda, fudging and erasing historical information. He got caught, and now anything he says should be discarded as trash. It's preposterous that he's still the GISS director.

  • 1 decade ago

    Or maybe he realizes that the sun controls our climate and the sun has beev very inactive for quite some time. If you look at the last 2 years, many scientist have predicted a cooler climate. farmers Almanac even came out and published their believe that the future year will be colder.

  • 1 decade ago

    Interesting - I thought the GISS reported that this was the 9th warmest year on record.

    "Just for the record, global warming doesn't make winter weather events disappear. September, October, and November 2008 were in the top 6 hottest of their respective months on record. 2008 as a whole is on track to be the 9th warmest year on record despite a strong La Nina event the first half of the year."

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Al1WU...

    So I guess Hansen doesn't know what he's talking about.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Tis only just begun to get cold... brrr... still zero sunspots..

    http://spaceweather.com/

    And if you thought global warming was something to be afraid of? Global cooling on any scale of significance will suck big time.

  • 1 decade ago

    Well Thursday the annual weather temp came out and this was the coolest year sense 2000, so maybe their is something to the sun spot thing after all.

  • eric c
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Did Easterbrook in 2001 get it right when he said temperatures would peak last year once the PDO shifted from its warm to cool phase?

    http://icecap.us/index.php/go/new-and-cool/implica...

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Interesting Hansen explained it back last January he had a 50-50 chance if he had said it 30 years ago I would be impressed.

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