What are the ultimate goals of feminism? If a man pays for date, is that anti-feminist?

Feminism isn't about restitution at all. You were right in the first instance, it's about equality. It's not anti-feminist per se if a man wants to pay for dinner, but then I'd like to pay next time, or just go Dutch to start with.

If you're in a relationship and want to treat your partner once in a while, or if you make more money than your partner then it's not a bad thing. When I used to earn more than an old boyfriend I paid for everything because he couldn't afford to. That's what relationships are about.

This Site Might Help You.

RE:

What are the ultimate goals of feminism? If a man pays for date, is that anti-feminist?

I was debating someone about feminism recently and not sure I fully understand it all. The main idea of feminism is equality for women. Does this mean it is anti-feminist for a woman to let a man pay for dinner while on a date? One could argue that traditional roles perpetuates the problems...

During my dating years I certainly didn't demand a man pays for dinner but I realize this is an old dating standard and guys didn't feel comfortable going dutch. It's not exactly something I enjoyed as you still feel you "owe" the guy something after dinner.

If a feminist feels weird about letting a man pay, it's best just to go somewhere inexpensive and offer to pay for drinks or something the next time, so that the money spent isn't really an issue.

Paying for dinner is a nice gesture; going all out and spending lavishly on a woman that a man barely knows, could be seen as anti-feminist.

Goals Of Feminism

"Does this mean it is anti-feminist for a woman to let a man pay for dinner while on a date?"

No, it's anti-feminist for a woman to assume that the man should ALWAYS pay, or that she's not obligated to at least pay half at some point. My theory is this: Whoever initiates the date should pay. After that, depending on who makes what, the bill should be shared or whoever feels like paying should pay. However, if I offer to pay or at least pay for myself, I really don't want a guy fighting me on it because it makes him look childish and overbearing.

"so a goal of feminism is not just equality but also some type of restitution?"

The main goal of feminism is for women to be treated like adults, as opposed to being lumped in with children (as in "women and children"). It's not about being better than men or fighting for female supremacy. Okay, maybe it is for radical feminists, but not for the rest of us.

Feminism is equal rights...if the man and woman decide that he should pay for the date because that is how they want to roll...they are exercising the free rights feminism fights for. EQUAL CHOICE, opportunities & representation under the law is what true feminism is.

Why are people obsessed with reducing feminism to who pays for whom on a date?

I have had some occasions where a woman insisted on paying her way, or paying for me, but I have never, ever had a woman get offended because I offered to pay.

Brer: Sorry but you were dating immature opportunists. And perhaps it is possible they caught on that you were gay and wanted to end the date post-haste?

I think the person who asked the person on a date should pay the bill.

This feminist sees a huge distinction between public and private life =o)

"Does this mean it is anti-feminist for a woman to let a man pay for dinner while on a date?"

No, not if she pays the next time they go out.