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Did the pagans steal their holiday from the Roman Christians?

Would you believe the pagan festival of the "Birth of the Unconquered Sun" (274 AD) was established on a date that was already unofficially celebrated by the Roman Christians as the date of Jesus birth?

Instead of the christians usurping a pagan holiday the pagans took it from the christians. Check out: www:touchstonemag.com/archives/article.php?id=16-10-012-v

Update:

Chloe: You are correct that the term Christmas was not used until then but I did not call it Christmas, I called it the date used to celibrate the Birth of Christ.

To everyone else did you even read the article? The point is that the early Roman Christians based their date on the Jewish calendar not on a date that was already a pagan festival date.

If you cannot get into the web site from the link I listed try going to www.touchstonemag.com/archives after you get there type in "calculating Christmas" into the little search box.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    answer: that's worse than Christians trying to back-track Jesus into the Tanakh. Ridiculous pretzel-logic that puts circular logic to shame. Try again, nothing there is even credible - try a real history book instead of propaganda

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    Try again - Romans didn't base anything on Jewish rituals, holy days or culture.

    The solstice was celebrated LONG before Christianity hit Rome. So were MANY holidays - that's how they got a break from the work week. They didn't have weekends, they had frequent holidays.

  • 1 decade ago

    Lol I checked out the site and seriously it's yet another religious propoganda site stating the everything started from christianity.

    You might want to look outside the little box you seem to be stuck in and search other sites and media to find FACTS.

    Paganism has been around longer than christianity. It is also a known fact by the clergy that many pagan holidays were used and changed to convert pagans to christianity.

    I know even without looking at the answers of others that people have provided some sites for you to look at, and I am guessing you'll blow them off.

  • 1 decade ago

    But the first mention of Christmas day being on December the 25th was in 354 ce, there fore after sol invictus, so the Christians definitely stole the date fron the pagans.

    BTW There have been celebrations around the Winter solstice for as long as human beings realised that the days started to get lighter around the 25th, and that was thousands of years before the Romans or the Christians!

  • 1 decade ago

    See, I believe quite the opposite. Being pagan myself I think the christians stole OUR traditional holidays.

    How do you know the roman Christians didn't start celebrating the birth of Jesus on the date of our festival?

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    More like the Christians stole it from the pagans.

    Winter solstice was celebrated in the earliest civilizations, and possibly even before written language ever existed. Christianity didn't really come into play until a LONG while after.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Well I hate to break it to you, but the celebration of the Norse Pagan god of the hunt Odin (which contributed to Roman Catholic Christmas) has been celebrated since WAY before Jesus was even born.

  • 1 decade ago

    I'm not going to argue where early christians got their ideas from...perhaps it was the Jews.

    But which Jewish tradition included decorating trees, holly, mistletoe, Santa and the elves, lighting up their houses? None. Those were pagan traditions that were adopted by the Christians.

    Source(s): Eclectic Pagan Witch
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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