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Won't the trade unions, developers and contractors get the jobs in this stimulus?

Construction jobs are already growing "faster than average" according to US Labor Statistics. Developers have access to government contracts and municiple and state taxes when they get infrastructure projects. Lawmakers get payoffs. Isn't the stimulus package misplacing the job creation? I think it is just another way legislators, local and in Washington, can get kickbacks for assigning the "stimulus" funds. Unions, will of course be winners. The Dem party will get "donations"...I think this is a corrupt plan. Why not start by ending H1B Visas, outsourcing and Green card employment? Why not start with non-union protected jobs that are not growing in this economy? Why not start with IT retraining programs? Why not put people into school (college and trades)? This bill does nothing to help the average worker short or long-term. Just like the Auto-workers bailout, it is the same old Dem Union corruption.

Update 2:

US Bureau of Labor statistics says that trade union jobs are expected to grow faster than average with the exception of "extraction" (mining) jobs. Regardless of how you feel the industry is doing, there are positions that were in trouble before the crash and are in serious jeopardy of being outsourced or destroyed without assistance.

"Construction: Employment of these workers is expected to grow 9.5 percent, adding 785,000 new jobs. Construction trades and related workers will account for nearly 4 out of 5 of these new jobs, or 622,000, by 2016. Minor declines in extraction occupations will reflect overall employment stagnation in the mining and oil and gas extraction industries."

The stimulus has added mining, gas and oil extraction jobs to the stimulus, so even that stat is likely to become an even faster job growth area...again...a union job.

Update 4:

If there weren't so little going to create jobs in the first place I wouldn't mind having union jobs increased...but only a small part is going to involve hiring, and I just don't see it impacting the unemployment rolls.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2154429/p...

And, by the way...I am hoping the stimulus works...we need it.

Update 5:

Take a look at the $130/hr SAP consulting jobs that go to foreigners who are paid to come here and work. I know...I have roomed with SAP consultants from India here on H1Bs. I work with H1Bs from Uganda. They won't even look at a job that pays less than $110 and that is WITH expenses paid...all housing, food, utilities, gas, car rental, and air travel to and from the location with leisure travel allowances!!!

http://www.h1base.com/

Update 6:

Yes...that is $110/hr.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    Spot on sweetheart.

    Source(s): This is very real.
  • TC
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Yes, a lot of the money for construction goes to the workers who get the new jobs instead of to the wealthy who get their money from the gains on their assets. Whereas reducing taxes just provides a little extra money to those people who already have a lot of it.

    The problem with our existing economy is that the rich have so much wealth that they don't perform any labor and also the poor are so poorly treated that they don't learn the skills necessry to perform skilled labor. Acodingly, two large segments of our population are not part of our labor pool. The stimulus will bring some of the poor into the labor pool but it does nothing to bring the rich into the labor pool.

  • Erika
    Lv 4
    5 years ago

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Great Question !

    Too few people realize that Obama intends to artificially " create " ( NOT save ) 3-4 million government & private jobs.

    Obama's " stimulus package " will manufacture jobs requiring $ 100,000 in annual government funding to create, subsidize & fund a job with an annual salary of $ 50,000

    Instead of having road crews with 5 guys fixing one pothole with 2 guys leaning on their shovels ......Obama's plan will pay for 10 guys to fix the same pothole with 7 guys leaning on their shovels

    Obama's plan will create union " featherbedding " jobs which existed though the '60s where, for example, union rules dictated that one " coalman " ( the guy who shovels coal into the furnace of the train ) had to be assigned to each train despite the fact that virtually all trains had stopped using coal furnaces for power amost 20 years before that

    Obama's plan will also create " makework " government jobs for obsolete archaic positions like office clerks to carry inner office communication memos from desk to desk despite the fact that offices now use emails.

    Obama's plan will create duplicate jobs & " busywork " jobs where you will have 3 different federal agency investigators investigating the same pharmacy at the same time for the same offense or the ultimate nightmare.......2 schoolteachers per class so they can relieve each other every so often and so the students can get 2 differnet viewpoints

    Obama wants Socialist control of our jobs & lives and that would ruin America.

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  • 1 decade ago

    The first part of your paragraph I agree partly with. Construction is still good because they hire low skilled workers as well, but more importantly the money and things they make stay in the country.

    I would encourage more spending on lower skilled jobs. The problem here is that it is very hard to do.

    IT re-retraining programs may be a good idea, but the idea of the stimulus is to put in the hands of people who will spend it the fastest, that's the number one goal, as well as on unused resources. The number two goal is to spend it in this country. The number three goal is to spend it wisely on necessary investment. In some sense, if people spend the money here, it is more important just to spend, regardless of what you spend it on. It sounds odd, but that is the economic theory.

    The idea of the stimulus is not necessarily to 'help' anyone in particular or any group of people. That is incidental.

    I think the union angle is weak since Unions only are less than 10% of the jobs, and non-government unions are just a few percent of the economy.

  • Not so. . .

    First off, the stats on the construction jobs was done before the housing collapse. Many construction workers are also out of work because fewer people are able to get the money to build. No money, no building.

    Second off, it takes more than just the construction workers to do all this. One will need administration staff (payroll doesn't write itself, you know), human resources, and many other individuals. And the supplies need to come from somewhere. The construction workers don't carry the supplies with them - they need to order them from suppliers. And they are going to need people to purchase the items from vendors, and the vendors need manufacturers to make the products, and so on.

    One must look past the obvious - it takes more than just the guys we see to do the work. This is where the "stimulus" will happen, and that is how it is supposed to work.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I.T. is essentially a service industry. Putting people into school is not directly going to affect the economy. Educators subscribe to the idea that education is a holy goal in its own right, but very little education is directly vocational. If it was economically a good idea, then the employers would either pay for it, or provide the training themselves.

    The idea of the economic stimulus package is not as part of a social welfare fund. It is to kick start the major industries.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    What is your source for the quote that construction jobs are growing "faster than average"? And what exactly does that mean? I work in home construction. And I can assure you that fewer homes are being built. So, there are fewer construction jobs.

    And anyone who believes that construction jobs are "low skill" has never attempted to construct anything.

    Source(s): The real life. Then you fix the economy. A monkey can destroy. If you know how to fix the problems, do it. Lead or get the hell out of the way.
  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    I know that a lot of jobs are UNION jobs and of course the UNIONS will get their dues..last year I paid $1,000 Union Dues~so I know they get their share..It will most likely be a lot of *PORK* in these construction jobs as all Government Jobs are loaded with Pork

    In the end it won't effect our recession but Billions will be wasted on

    *make work* projects.

  • 1 decade ago

    Not if your white, Obamas economic advisers wants only minorities to get these jobs, like Illegals and women

  • ?
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Of course its payback season. What people should be looking at, is out of the 850,000,000.000 spent just how little really goes to building roads and bridges and schools.

    It might just shock some.

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