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Biblically speaking, from which biblical lineage do the Egyptians, Babylonians, & Persians descend?

Abraham is a direct descendant of Noah, and there were several generations between Noah and Abraham, but it seems like the other cultures who should have been eliminated by the flood are either still around after the flood or must somehow have descended from Noah's lineage. If this is the case, then how come they have created such complex and massive civilizations while Abraham has not?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Arabs ARE White(Semitic, like the closely related Jews). Genetic studies indicate most of the Ancient Egyptian mummies are Arab Semitic White, followed by a small amount of Nubians-people of Kemit-Sudanese and some Nilotics, Black/Arab mix-most experts consider this mix to be the Hamites,the Berbers and Moors are essentially Arabs with 8-15% Black heritage, and a smaller amount of Indo European Aryan Whites(Iranians/Persians, Greeks, Romans, Turks) and Asiatics(both Oriental and non Oriental).The population break down of Ancient Egypt has remained the same as present day Egypt-65% Arab Semitic White, 30% Black(mostly Nubian, some Nilotic), Black/Arab mix, and 5% all other ethnicities.The Ancient Egyptians in their "Book of the Gates" (see link) clearly delineated themselves from the Black Nubians See the following links for more information:

    http://mathildasanthropologyblog.wordpress.com/200...

    http://www.geocities.com/enbp/pbs.html

    http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/history_in_africa/v03...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Gates

    In the Ancient Egyptian "Book of the Gates"-the darke Brown Ancient Egyptians very clearly DELINEATE themselves from the black, Black Nubians.

    http://www.geocities.com/wally_mo/

    http://www.catchpenny.org/race.html

    http://www.jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/RaceOfAncie...

    http://naturescorner.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/wher...

    NOTE: Afro centrists attempt to portray the Nubians as the Ancient Egyptians against scientific evidence, including DNA testing(haploid) and anthropological measurements of the mummies.This link from above shows the genetic proof -the Hamitic theory is outdated and proven wrong by DNA testing(haploid):

    http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/history_in_africa/v03...

    Arabs are classified as Caucasian, although most are swarthy and have the same coloration as many of the Southern Indo European Aryan Whites-Iranians/Persians, Greeks, Southern Italians, Southern Germans, and the Tamilils of India(very dark brown).Arabs also get much darker in Egypt's climate.Many of the Egyptian murals show many different peoples with different facial features and skin coloration because of the mix as described above. Also see my previous answers to very similiar questions for more detail.

    Any thumbs down, present proof as I did, instead of hearsay, or, wishful thinking. No, not drawings and statues. I can present Arab Semitic White for every Nubian presented, and, yes, there was admixture as mentioned above.Against the experts whom claim King Tut was White, I will say, he was MIXED-see this link from above:

    http://naturescorner.wordpress.com/2008/12/13/wher...

    Incidentally, not everyone in Africa, is Black. 1/3 of Africa(North) is Arab Semitic White and the Black Nubians and Nilotics still live among the Modern Egyptians today.

    EDIT: THUMBS DOWN-just as I thought-NO PROOF as I have given because all you have is hearsay and wishful thinking.BEFORE ANCIENT EGYPT, the area was populated by Blacks, then the Arabs invaded then Egypt annexed part of Nubia(lower southwestern 1/4 of Egypt) in 1520 B.C.-the remainder is present day Sudan. Part of the reason for the war there is that the indigenous Black sudanese feel the immigrant Arab Semitic Whites had spread too fast and want to annex Sudan to Egypt.

  • 5 years ago

    Bible says it is ok to stone her though: Deuteronomy 22 13 If a man takes a wife and, after lying with her, dislikes her 14 and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, "I married this woman, but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity," 15 then the girl's father and mother shall bring proof that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. 16 The girl's father will say to the elders, "I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. 17 Now he has slandered her and said, 'I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.' But here is the proof of my daughter's virginity." Then her parents shall display the cloth before the elders of the town, 18 and the elders shall take the man and punish him. 19 They shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver [b] and give them to the girl's father, because this man has given an Israelite virgin a bad name. She shall continue to be his wife; he must not divorce her as long as he lives. 20 If, however, the charge is true and no proof of the girl's virginity can be found, 21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death. She has done a disgraceful thing in Israel by being promiscuous while still in her father's house. You must purge the evil from among you. My question is how in the hades do you provide a cloth that proves your daughter is a virgin? I wonder how many wives were stoned to death because their hymens were broken in puberty due to riding a camels humps, or falling off a donkey, or just the simple fact some women's hymen are thinner and weaker than others. Hmmmm?

  • What?
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    Noah had three sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth; the different nationalities, races, etc. stemmed from these three. Read chapter 10 of Genesis, it explains the lineage and the nations formed by these three sons' descendants. I know that in Ham's lineage Nimrod was born, he founded Babel, which in turn was in the land of Babylon (Shinar in the Bible).

    Noah and his sons were told to be fruitful and multiply, refill the earth. Abraham didn't have this command, God said through Abraham all nations would be blessed, and his descendants would be as the stars in the sky. They weren't as diverse but there are a lot of descendants of Abraham.

  • 1 decade ago

    There are three brothers out of their father Noah: Ham, Japheth, and Shem. Abraham is descended from Shem. Egyptians are descended from Ham (either his wife or daughter was Egyptus and her son was Pharoah). Babylonians are descended from Ham, or their leader Nimrod was and the other tribes mixed with him because he was a strong leader and very likable, or a bully. Nimrod is the founder of all the cities in mesopotamia, that became world powers: asshur (assyria), nineva, ur, babel (babylon), etc. Persians were originally from Shem but later were joined by the "combo people" of Nimrod.

    In the time of Abraham, these were mere nation-cities. And there was a lot of cooperation with each other at this time. In fact, in the mesopotamian city Abraham grew up in, the people in addition to worshipping their own gods also worshipped the god of egypt. Abraham left because he did not believe in their Gods and his father tried to have him sacrificed. So he moved somewhere where they believed in the God he did, but eventually that area was enticed by the gods of Mesopotamia and he left and became solitary with his large family.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Don't forget that Noah had 3 sons...

    Ham, Shem and Japheth,

    Egyptians (and all Africans) are traditionally thought to be descendants of Ham.

    Babylonians and Persians from Japheth.

    People from the Arabian peninsula to Syria from Shem.

    Other sources say Japheth fathered the Eurasians. It all depends on where you put the arbitrary line between Eurasia and the Middle East.

    The national lines of demarcation are extremely fuzzy.

    Source(s): This is taken from the The World as Know to the Hebrews According to the Mosaic Account (1854 map) that is on: Sons of Noah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Noah
  • Debs
    Lv 5
    1 decade ago

    I kinda think I know. Remember when all the people has gathered together and said they are going to build a temple all the way to heaven. Then God Almighty got angry and said these people are too proud and they want to take all the glory. Well God said He had to mix up their language so no one can understand the other and so cannot accomplish to build the temple to reach in the clouds of heaven. So God did and that caused confusion and those that spoke the same language they all formed their own group and went their separate ways. That must have been the same time God caused each group to be of different race to go with their language. That's the reason why the place is called Babel meaning confusion. I think that to be so.

  • 1 decade ago

    That's a really hard thing to pin down, and I'm not entirely certain its possible. The descendents of Ishmael are thought to be muslim (from the teachings I"ve heard, but I've not seen any proof)...

    Technically, though, we are all descendants of Noah since he, his wife and his children were the only living humans after the flood.

  • 1 decade ago

    The Egyptians were building pyramids hundreds of years before Noah's flood, beginning in the 3rd dynasty around 27th century BC so obviously they were not descended from Noah.

  • 1 decade ago

    How can people who existed as Intelligent, viable societies have "descended" from people who wrote a story book thousands of years later? The Egyptians and Babylonians were around long before the Bible! Thousands of years!

  • 1 decade ago

    israel and its people have been destroyed many times by other nations

    Assyria, the Babylonians, and Rome to name a few.

    The germans killed millions during the holocaust.

    Israel has not had a land to live in from 70AD until 1948AD

    Israel was large and massive during king solomons reign.

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