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colliepoodle asked in SportsRugby · 1 decade ago

Help, I hate my scrumhalf!!!!?

I am new to rugby and am just learning the game. I play for a lower level men's club in the USA. The team is very good, but it's mission is to welcome all players of all skill levels.

I played in a match yesterday and did okay. I am good at the lifts on line outs, I made a good catch and return on a kick off, and I am alright in the scrum (I play lock and am 6' 5" and 270 lbs and not the most flexible person out there) I have power, but my prop said I was lifting him too much.

Anyway, I was not getting into rucks that were about 15 meters away from me fast enough and the scrum half would not shut up about it. Apparently this guy yells and yells. Shouldn't he be taking his agression out on the other team? What do other people think?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Don't bother about him, it's his job to be a dirty wee pig, it's the scrum half thing to do. You'll never win an argument with a halfback. I wouldn't try if I were you. It's that whole little person thing that gets them all jumped up. Try telling Jimmy Cowan he's harsh. He knows, and that's how it'll stay. And another thing you've got to know, and correct me if I'm wrong because it seems to be an American thing, but taking this thing about you halfback with you off the pitch is something generally that's not often done, unless there's a problem with his performance. You might grab your mate by his collar and shove him into a ruck but neither of you even think about it afterwards, it's water under the bridge. You might play against a friend and punch him during the game, but if its brought up at all after, it's just to have a laugh about it. My advice is to just do your best to do what Mr. Scrumhalf says. And don't make a fuss about it. If my halfback didn't scream at me, I'd be wondering what's wrong with him.

    PS. Scrumhalf = Halfback

    I used halfback in there a lot. They're the same thing.

  • 1 decade ago

    Scrumhalfs are, by definition, usually quite loud and aggressive. They do tend to yell quite a bit. Remember that these are the guys who have to shoulder the responsibility of directing play, which can be a pretty big call. So yeah, they can come across as quite harsh. Most of them are really good guys, but they are under a lot of pressure, and their aggressive nature can make them seem hard to approach. As a forward, you generally will be slower than the backs, so perhaps a little bit of speed training. But really, if worst comes to worst, your scrumhalf should be able to join a ruck himself, and then have someone else step into the scrumhalf position for the next phase. I'm a winger, and I spend more time in rucks then I do actually running the ball, because that's where I tend to end up. While, as a forward, one of your major involvements is to be in the breakdown, if you're not there, any other player should be able to take your place.

    The best advice I can give you is to talk it out with him. Ask him what you can do better, and look at ways of solving the problem. A good scrumhalf can read the game exceptionally well because that's their job. He should be able to look at some other options, and work over some other alternatives. The best teams have the best communication, on and off the pitch.

  • 1 decade ago

    if you were lifting your prop in the scrum it means your prop wasn't getting low enough, if he's in proper position & your in proper position, you should not cause him to get off the ground.

    As for your scrum half, if there's a risk your team is going to loose the ball, he should be getting in the ruck himself.

    However, part of your scrum half's role is to organize the forwards, & tell the forwards where they should be.

    However, if the ball was already secure at the bottom of your ruck or the opponents ruck, there is no point joining the ruck. You loosing a defender if you do that, you better off that 1 or 2 off the ruck in the defensive line.

    However, if your the closest forward to the ruck, you should be doing all you can to get there fast.

    As scrum half's go, I'm yet to meet one I like. Just ignore him. Listen to the other forwards, they know what you should be doing more than your scrum half will.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Rugby's a team sport and a big part of success is working in that team. Sadly the sport attracts many total knob-ends and you have to tolerate and work with them too.

    If it's too unbearable just tell him to shut his cake-hole, preferably around the others, I'm sure you're not the only one whom he's rubbing the wrong way.

    Or you could smash him at training, or when he's next on the bottom of a ruck.

  • 1 decade ago

    Mate, talking rubbish about your team mate off the field is bad karma. What happens on the field ...stays on the field, it is as simple as that......you say that you are new to the game, the scrum half has probably taken you under his wing, and helping you realise more of the game play that is required.

    No they don't do it with a smile, they bark at you and demand more every time....that's why I love them, they fire me up when I am feeling a little lethargic.

    Look, just thank him...you are saving yourself an argument that you wont win.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    give him a break mate, he`s doing his job.......and if you were doing yours ( getting into the ruck and winning the ball), ...you can`t from 15 away.....he wouldn`t be yelling at you.

    Next time ,have a chat to him when you`s are having a beer after a game....find out what he wants from you, Rugby is a TEAM game.....if he` still a little prick, then clip his ear.

  • Bill P
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    I hated mine one season. After dragging him into a ruck and working him over he was fine (we were allowed to ruck back then).

  • Adam G
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    Just do what my forwards used to do.....lay on the ground and pretend to have the wind knocked out of them, while daydreaming of sitting on your beanbag chair, naked-eating cheetos .

    Or you can do the "Pretending to be confused" act by pulling a stupid face, and running in the opposite direction.

    Source(s): Scrumhalf for ten years. High school --Uni---mens club
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