Please enlighten me, where can I see these historical documents that Christians claim exist.?

There are no secular documents or confirmed eye witness statements that Mary was a virgin.

Based on principles of naval engineering combined with the hypothesis of the ark containing representative species of all animals (e.g. a wolf is genetically capable of producing any type of domestic dog through selective breeding with time, for example), it has been demonstrated the ark, with the dimensions provided, would be capable of carrying each species of animal. Remember, insects, fish, worms, and other "things that creep" - along with other forms of aquatic animals, were not on the ark. There would be plenty of debris floating around for smaller animals to survive.

Like most other Biblical drivel it's allegorical and not to be taken literally as history. It's the whole idea of purity and freedom from "initial sin" that is being touted here. So far as the purity idea goes...Why did the Bible bother to have her be married if that was/is an issue? It's another attempt by the Church to control human nature. Women like men have desires often will, can, and do act upon them...Its natural to want to procreate. With respect to initial sin if Adam and Eve were the only folks on earth than there would be far fewer of us around with many more mutations and problems from inbreeding than we currently have. Finally, Jesus is false and unproven in terms even down to his very existence and even if he did exist the whole of Christianity is false.

The justification for why Christianity is false is simple and in a few parts: First Jesus only met 85-90% of the criteria to be Messiah; Wouldn't God (assuming there is one) require 100% compliance? Second: Given that Jews are still here and living it stands to reason that he wasn't Messiah material. Last but not least what all Christians & Jews don't get is clear as day...the Jews serve as living breathing penance for the sins of humanity and if there were in fact a Jesus he died for nothing (treason, claimed to be Godlike when only the Roman Emperor could make that claim). It's the Chosen People aka the Jews that suffer incessantly at the hands of other(s) who will supposedly ascend first to keep the pearlies when the rapture occurs. All of this is clear in Biblical terms and fully supported there despite the book being nothing more than a fariy tale (OT expcepted as there is some historical evidence/links to some of it being true...a history of the Ancient Hebrew people {notice I said Hebrew people and not Jews as the religion is not the same as the people}).

Yeah, I've never understood that either. There are no historical documents that state Mary was a virgin. There is no scientific proof for Noah's ark. There is no historical evidence that Jesus performed miracles, outside of the Bible. I'm a Christian, and I'm well aware of this.

However, as far as historical documents proving Jesus the man existed, there are plenty. Perhaps they were written decades after the events, but that means nothing, because they could have easily been invalidated if they had been false. No one, until the last two hundred years or so, ever tried saying Jesus didn't exist. Oh, they said the virgin birth was a myth, and so were the miracles (including the resurrection), but they never tried saying Jesus didn't exist. Even the enemies of Christianity in the 1st century (and there were many of those) never tried saying it.

Anyway, my point is, it's dishonest for Christians to say any of what you stated. It's also dishonest to say that the Roman records are silent on Jesus, when we don't even have all of the Roman records.

Ugg. Almost of the documents asserting Mary was a virgin were all written after they heard or read the story. Original,ly she was just a "young woman." Stupid translators.

The ark thing was probably from a fundie website.

Jesus existed, but he didn't perform miracles. I'm going to go with the fundie website idea again here. Historical Jesus was so much different.

Try reading early Church documents, writings of ancient historians, early Roman empire records etc.

Some of the places you can find them are places like the Hanover historical texts program and the many other university and college studies being done. Not to mention the many museums and archaeological/anthropological studies being done as well.

By the way, I'm not what you would call a "fundie", but I do believe in the fundamentals of the Christian faith, as preached by the apostles of Jesus Christ, not the modern variations common to the countless denominations today that seem to make the faith up as they deem fit.

p.s. Interesting mentality you have, you quote in an effort to discredit the answers you recieved yet you haven't bothered to confirm the words as you have with me. Clearly you are not interesting in the truth only your own personal agenda.

If by some miracle you do decide the truth is of more value than your own opinions, then maybe you'll take the time to check out what you have been told and realize what a fool you are making yourself appear.

There aren't any. The only "documents" from that time or earlier that I've ever seen were the Dead Sea Scrolls. I think they're pulling these "documents" out of their nether regions.

there is not one piece of historical evidence that mary or jesus ever existed,please dont quote the n/t as it was nor written by the contemparies of the time that these mythical people supposed to have existed

There isn't one single document that proves without a doubt that Jesus existed. Not ... one ... single ... document.

Jesus existed.

The historical Jesus is the figure of the first-century Jesus of Nazareth as reconstructed by scholars using historical methods that include critical analysis of gospel texts as the primary source for his biography, and non-biblical sources for the historical and cultural context in which he lived.

Use of the term "the historical Jesus" implies that the figure thus reconstructed differs from that presented in the teaching of the ecumenical councils ("the dogmatic Christ") and in other Christian accounts ("the Christ of faith").

unfortunately, mary's gynecological records, and jesus's birth certificate were stored in the temple in jerusalem which was torn down and burnt in 70ce...