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Brett Favre- why so much disinformation on here?
Users on here are always talking out of the side of their necks about Brett Favre on here- why?
Fact: Favre broke John Elway's all-time wins record in less games than Elway played.
Fact: Favre broke Marino's passing records in less games than Marino played (despite Marino throwing on every down!)
Fact: Ted Thompson started the Favre retirement rumors the moment he arrived in Green Bay, not Favre. Thompson drafted unneeded Rodgers #1 when Favre desperately needed a RB, TE, and receivers. He spent three straight years on defense instead of helping Favre. All of the 'retirement' hoopla can be traced directly back to evil Ted Thompson. It wasn't Favre's fault.
Fact: Favre was a Pro-Bowler and an MVP candidate last year until he hurt his shoulder. He didn't suddenly "get too old". You know that if Favre can walk out onto the field, he will play. It was up to his coach to pull him out if he couldn't get the job done. Mangini was too weak to pull Favre and end the streak. Why are Jets fans blaming Favre?
Fact: In the mid-90's, Favre played QB at a level never seen before or since. I've been watching since @1970, and I have never seen ANYONE play like that!
Give the old guy a break! He practically saved the NFL back in the 90's from becoming a league of selfish players who wouldn't play with a hangnail because their precious stats may go down, and they wouldn't be able to re-negotiate their contracts at the end of the year! Favre brought real, old-school football back to the NFL!
Agree?
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- ?Lv 61 decade agoFavorite Answer
I agree.
This guy is one of my favorite players. And he is also one of the greatest all-time. He deserves every football fan's respect.
- 1 decade ago
I am so tired of the Jets season being brought up all the time. Brett Favre played football for 16 years with the Packers. And his years with the Packers were, exciting, phenomenal etc.... Now the following isn't backing up his stats, but showing what kind of player he is, and why he is the Ironman.
291 consecutive games, injuries, including a broken and sprained thumb on his right hand, a badly sprained left ankle, a sprained left foot, a sprained left knee, a torn ligament in his left knee, a severely bruised left hip, and a separated left shoulder. He suffered a cracked vertebra, a concussion, and crushed intestines during a car crash before his senior year of college. He had 30 inches of his intestines removed, and returned for the second game of the season.
And what? Because of the interception record or some other stupid little fact people dig up they dismiss Favre as being less than a QB legend? Here's a laundry list:
Most Associated Press NFL MVP Awards - 3 (1995, 1996 and 1997) (tied with Peyton Manning), Most Consecutive Starts by an NFL QB - 269 (291including playoffs), Most Regular Season Wins by an NFL QB - 169, Most Touchdown Passes - 464, Most Passing Yards - 65,127, Most Passes Attempted - 9,280, Most Passes Completed - 5,720, Most Seasons, 3,000 or More Yards Passing - 16, Most Passes Had Intercepted - 310 (see I put it in), Most Career Games with at Least Three TD Passes - 65, Won the Associated Press Most Valuable Player (MVP) Award three times, all in consecutive years (1995, 1996, and 1997; the last shared with Barry Sanders), Was selected to play in the Pro Bowl ten times in his career, Was a seven-time All-Pro selection, Was named to the NFL 1990s All-Decade Team, Received the NFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 12 times, Received the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 1 time.
And I do dislike Thompson tremendously, what he did to Favre was not cool. I'd explain, but I know you feel the same way. I do not harbor any animosity towards Rodgers either. I'm talking about Favre and how he was treated. Even if Rodgers took the Packers to the Super Bowl in 2008 it wouldn't change what went down with Favre.
Source(s): Green Bay Native - 1 decade ago
Wow, so your one of the many Ted Thompson haters, huh?
Fact: in only 2 years as GM of the Packers, Ted Thomspon took a 4-12 teams and turned it into 13-3 team that went to the NFC championship.
Fact: The packers did need aaron Rodgers b/c Favre was getting old and the most important position for a franchise is QB.
Fact:Ted Thompson did not have some scheme to run Favre out of Green Bay
Fact: Favre fell off at the end of the season the last two years. Y? maybe because he was getting old and cant take the cold wheather as good as he could when he was young. There was no "injury"
Fact: Aaron Rodgers: 4038 yards, 28 Tds, 13 ints, 93.8 qb rating
Bret Favre:3472 yards, 22 tds, 22 ints, 81.0 qb rating
Who had the better year? Dont waste your time typing dumb questions like this again. By the way, I'm a Packer fan and I'm from green bay
- joseph_d_IILv 51 decade ago
I'm a Brett Favre fan but you also have to look at from the point of view of fans of those teams,
Fact: Brett Favre holds almost every passing record in the league to include the most interceptions.
Your right he did do all those things, but he has also had a selfish attitude towards his play and has refused to change it for any coach. It worked under Mike Holmgreens offense, but when new coaches come in and want to run a new system the player should adapt to those calls, not audiable out of a call because he doesn't like it and not go for the homerun when you have a player open in the flat for the 1st down (i.e. Ahman Green in the NFC title game against the Giants).
Fact: Brett has he own prepartion plan for a game which most times did not include teammates.
Look it comes down to this, as the QB he is the most recognized face of the team, sometimes that means taking the blame even if all of it doesn't fall on you. Your right the Packers mishandled Favre after Thompson came but you point out he drafted defense, well the Packers needed to improve their defense it was getting old and had a lot of cracks in it, now look at it, the Packers have the best secondary in football and will have one of the best front sevens as well. When you're the caliber player Favre is, people just hate on you and are jealous, but fans are a fickle bunch it's not what have you done, it's what have you done lately.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
1. Fact: Favre broke John Elway's all-time wins record in less games than Elway played.
WRONG.
John Elway's Career Record was 148-82-1. He played 231 games in his career.
Brett Farve Broke the record on his 239th consecutive start.
It doesn't matter, both manning and brady will shatter that record.
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Fact: Favre broke Marino's passing records in less games than Marino played (despite Marino throwing on every down!)
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WRONG AGAIN. Brett Favre was on his 242 Consecutive start the day he broke the record, which dates back to 1992. Prior to that he had played in 2 games for Atlanta. Marino had less attempts and less games than farve although not by a lot.
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Fact: Favre was a Pro-Bowler and an MVP candidate last year until he hurt his shoulder. He didn't suddenly "get too old". You know that if Favre can walk out onto the field, he will play. It was up to his coach to pull him out if he couldn't get the job done. Mangini was too weak to pull Favre and end the streak. Why are Jets fans blaming Favre?
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He was neither. The Jets weren't doing too bad but they had one of the easiest schedules in football. THey had the AFC West, NFC West where no team was above 8-8 and they had the AFC East division which granted was 4 tough games, but Favre didn't play well in any of them and was 2-2 in those two games.
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Fact: In the mid-90's, Favre played QB at a level never seen before or since. I've been watching since @1970, and I have never seen ANYONE play like that!
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Yes, most quarterbacks throw to their own team not to the other one.
In all honesty, Favre is a good quarterback but he is over rated and he was too old to last through seasons. HE was a playoff choke artist. He was one and one in the superbowl.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
I laugh at this question and the answers that follow. You will never get a true answer because it is all based on opinion. Since when were anyone of you on Green Bay when Brett played? None. So you pull these biased opinion out of you *** and act like it is true. Favre was and still is a quaterback and that is all. Sure he was good, but half of this **** that is being posted is opinion.
My opinion: I love the guy, but sometimes you have to reach for the sky and say your goodbye, but our heart will always be with you.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Here's some of Marino's stats.
Marino: 420 TD's & 252 INT's Averaged 27.7 TD's/14.8 INT's a season
Marino: 61,361 Passing Yards in 17 years. Averaged 3,609 a season
Named NFL Most Valuable Player (1984).
Played 242 games, starting 240 of them.
First QB in NFL history to have six 4,000-yard seasons (1984–86, 1988, 1992, 1994; surpassed by Peyton Manning in 2006).
First QB in NFL history to pass for 5,000 or more yards in a single season (5,084 in 1984).
Only QB in NFL history to throw 40+ TD passes in a season twice (48 in 1984, 44 in 1986)…only 3 other QB's have done it once.
Led 37 fourth-quarter comeback victories, third all-time to John Elway (47) and Brett Favre (40).
Holds Dolphins team record for most seasons played (17).
Had 116 wins under Don Shula – the most by a head coach/quarterback combination in NFL history.
Won the AFC Offensive Player of the Week honor 18 times in the regular season (and 20 times overall, including playoffs).
Compiled a 147-93 regular-season record as a starter, third best all-time.
Of his 63 career games with 300+ yards passing, 11 came against the Jets(including his final 300-yd game); he had 8 against the Colts (who were in the AFC EAST during Marino's career), and 7 apiece against the Patriots and Bills…meaning Marino picked up 33 of his 63 career 300-yd performances against division foes. Incredibly, of Marino's 13 career games with 400+ passing yards, 4 came against the Jets…the other 9 came against 9 different teams.
For perspective, his 61,361 career passing yards is the equivalent of having passed his way across the state of Rhode Island.
Also, he was hurt for most of 1993, so techniqually, he had really only 16 full seasons to perform his incredible stats. People look at only some of the records that Favre has. You really need to look at all the acheivements that Marino had in his younger years especially. I don't want to fill this page up with the rest of his records, but their is a second link for you to browse if you need too. Marino is the man, he had one of the most powerful and accurate arms in the history of ball, and he never ever had a team round him like Favre did, he never did have a running game, he never had AWESOME receivers. Branch and Driver are outstanding and underrated receivers who average well with their YAC. Marino did have some defense yes, but he never had the whole package either. If you put Marino with the 2007 Pats....could've you imagined what he could've done with Randy Moss, he's more accurate, and a very quick release, even more than Peyton Manning. This is just me though....don't get me wrong, Bret Favre is awesome, but too....I am a lifelong Dolphins fan and gotta stay with my team.
Source(s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Marino#NFL_record... - 1 decade ago
Why are you still made at Thompson for moving on to the future where they can build around Rodgers. Rodgers will only need to win one Super Bowl and he'll have the same amount of rings as Brett.
- 1 decade ago
Favre's MVP candidacy consisted of 22 TDs and 22 INTs...
that doesn't sound like an MVP season to me. If I recall, there were a lot of Jets that were extremely pissed off at the Interception King.
Well, anyway...
go back to jerking off to your Favre Fathead poster.
- 1 decade ago
Because people have passionate opinions on trivial topics like football. Most of this is really a matter of opinion or he-said/she-said arguments. What it comes down to it doesn't matter. If all the people obsessing either way about this would dedicate themselves to a productive pass-time with such fervor, maybe the world would be a better place.
- 42Lv 71 decade ago
No, disagree entirely. He saved the league from selfish players? He IS a selfish player. He's an egomaniac who thought he WAS the Green Bay Packers. He didn't seem to understand that this franchise was a legendary 11-time NFL champion long before he was even a twinkle in his daddy's eye.
Favre thought it was OK to hold the team hostage year after year after year while he sat on his lawn mower in Mississippi and flipflopped back and forth about whether he was coming back. The Packers' front office got sick of it and told him to make a decision. So he did, and God forbid, the Packers took him at his word and moved on with Rodgers. Then he changes his mind and expects the Packers to undo everything they'd just done in their draft to prepare for life after him and roll out the red carpet for him.
How long were the Packers supposed to cater to his every whim, especially after throwing half the team under the bus to make himself look like the good guy? He just recently told Peter King he wanted to come back last year to stick it to Ted Thompson. Wow, that's mature. Something a 12-year-old might do, but I expect more from a grown man.
Rodgers wasn't needed? When do you draft a new QB to replace your aging one, then? Do you just wait until he retires and then go out and find someone in the hopes that he works out? Or do you take time to develop the new guy -- which is exactly what the Packers did?
You want to talk about records, let's talk about the interception record. Since he won his ONLY Super Bowl (the year he had a stellar defense led by Reggie White to bail him out), he threw more INTs than TDs in the postseason and lost more games than he won. He gave Green Bay their first-ever home loss in the playoffs -- and then did it twice more. The last one was all on him -- a bonehead throw in OT against the Giants that resulted in an INT and a field goal for the Giants, who then went on to the Super Bowl and left Green Bay out in the cold. And it was all because of Favre's "gunslinger" mentality that couldn't put the good of the team ahead of his desire to be a hot-dog superstar whose gee-whiz plays would get him on the SportsCenter highlights that night.
The guy was selfish and reckless, and he always got away with it because of his aw-shucks, good-old-boy routine that made everyone love him and overlook his faults. Hell, as a Packer fan of 25 years, I made excuses for him, too, because he was the QB of my team and he led the team to a lot of exciting wins. But more often than not, he couldn't get it done when it mattered, because he didn't know how to make mature decisions on the field. Obviously, he can't make mature decisions off the field, either.
He's lost all of my respect. The team always comes before individual players, ESPECIALLY in Green Bay. Favre never understood that.
Source(s): Packers fan since 1982, and a shareholder