Those of you in the military/army/anything of that sort... how do you do it?

The type of person who joins the Military is usually a person who desires to serve his/her country. It's as simple as that. Patriotism plays a BIG part in it. It's not about doing a job, it's not about following orders, it's not about war, it's not about fighting. It's about wearing the uniform and protecting our country. It's about living a life of honor and service.

These are things which drive some people to strive for a position in the Military. You mentioned none of them in your question, and I believe that, in itself, answers your question.

Your question seems to show you are naive about the world. You speak of not being able to take orders but no matter what job you get you will have to follow orders until the day comes you are the boss and even then there are rules, regulations and laws that have to be followed. And in the military if an order is wrong, it is called an un-lawful order and does not have to be followed, that is based on legalities not your opinion though.

Now concerning people as just people, what would you do if someone attacked you, just stand there and allow them to kill you, because all people are people.

There is a whole lot more in repsonse to your question but what little I've written I hope will make you think.

I think you have a good heart now start using that head of yours for something other than a hat rack.

I joined the Army to serve my country, to make my family proud and to make myself proud. I don't know when, but I lost all that. One of the lonely days that a deployed soldier experiences I expect. It's ok though. I will still serve with honor and discipline. I will always do my best. The Army has not brainwashed me into that. My buddies depend on me. I follow orders because I know those orders are there to keep my fellow soldiers alive. I have found the best friends I have ever had in the Army. I know some of these friendships will last a lifetime. I've lost the reason I joined but I gained a much better one. I defend the lives of my friends, I help protect their families from the heartache of a fallen loved one and I can follow any order to maintain the respect of those I serve beside.

Although i do not agree with all of your viewpoints exactly, atleast your viewpoints are worth reading, unlike alot of the posts made on these forums.

You may just not be the conflict type, which is fine. We are all made differently, and thats the beauty of life. How there can be so many of us, and have so many similar interests, yet at the same time be so different. As long as your post isnt a protest the war speech in disguise, i respect your decision. They are people, thats true, just like you and me. However, i guess it somewhat nullifies the human vs human scenario a bit when you realize that they are trying to kill you. For them its even more then pride or nation, its religious. Their religion guides alot of what they do, and as such, we end up fighting a force that doesnt care so much about us, as they do appeasing their god.

Although im not in yet, i am enlisted, and have turned this thought over in my mind countless times, and i feel no regrets about signing up as infantry, and hopefully will get it. I knew exactly what i was getting myself into when i signed the papers. For some its an easy choice, it always has been for me. No civilian job, or even graduating college, ever made me as happy as the day i took my oath of enlistment and i count the days till i ship. The thing i try to keep in mind is, from a christian standpoint, the middle east will always remain in conflict, and as long as we are involved with them, that means that my family is indirectly at risk. Maybe not from war, but from terrorist bombings, riots, whatever may happen here as a result of their hate towards us.

If i can help, even just a tiny bit, to make that risk lower, then i can die happy.

Simple you just do it, its hard on you and your family, some do it out of patriotism most i knew did it because it was either that of a factory job, one word here necessity, we all need a job and young men think that being a soldier is better than being in a dead end job at home, course when they join they find its all back breaking work or complete boredom, and they need a job still so they stick at it because they signed a contract, after a few years it becomes easy/ safe in the sense that the civilian world lays people off and the jobs are hard to get, allot leave after there first 4 years in our army, and the lads who like the fact that they will have a job for 22 years stick with it, but on the whole for my mind the army was something i endured rather than enjoyed, believe me there is nothing fun about sleeping in puddles (yes i ve done this) or walking all day in the 120 degree heat with 70-100lbs of kit on you (i ve done this too), the worst part is watching your friends die (something i haven't seen) but i know those who have, they have nightmares in the barracks at 4 am, screaming like someone has been murdered, but on the whole we do it because we have to, if there were better opportunities out there i would have jumped for them, but for me at that age it was army or factory, so i went with the glamourous option, only thing is there is nothing glamourous about being a soldier, except the half glances you get off civilians when you are in uniform, no one from my country ever thanked me for what i did, that's just sad for my mind.

Hope this helped.

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At least you know how you feel and where you stand. Many people don't know they feel this way until they get in and realize that it was a bad choice or that they have issues following orders.

Good for you for knowing yourself.

How do I do it? Easy, I like to have order and disclipline in my life. I should have been a Marine. There is no difference between my job and a civilian job, except I wear a uniform and people SHOULD go to jail for failing to follow orders. Which they don't, they have way to many rights these days. They're worried we'll "hurt their feelings".

Sheesh. Though I hear in the civilian world its no better, at least there you can fire people. Here, not so easy.

Please take no offense, for none is meant.You definitely have a different mindset. After reading what you wrote carefully everything is about "you". I's and me's appear quite a lot.

An individual signs up to defend this Country, its Constitution and the People because they know there is something more import then themselves.

It is not the willingness to stand up for oneself, it is the willingness to stand-up for others without reserve.

Being a part of something greater then themselves and making difference.

At least for me, I am an American. I served in the Army.

I was proud to serve and defend this country she has made me what I am.

As for killing, depends... the Bible tells there is no greater love then to give your life in protecting another, and everyday a Soldier, a Police Officer, a Fireman this is what they do.

They are willing to surrender there life for a complete stranger. I thank each and everyone of them in prayers, for they willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for those that believe as you, and they do this without judging, without thought, without criticism.

Should you not give them the same courtesy?

I'm joining the Air Force, and entering Para rescue.. because I want to save lives of soldiers who really do risk their lives to preserve our countries rights, and whatever else our country orders them to do.

I know I'll be in danger too, I guess that adds to the thrill of joining para rescue for me.

But to answer the other people theorem... I could kill a terrorist, thinking of 9/11, my family, my state...

I would bring to mind all the bad things I've seen/heard them do, and let it fuel me. In war, it's best not to be blinded by emotions.

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