whats a better rifle rossi-handi-or knight single shot im wanting a single shot 223,,or 308,,or 7.62x39 what?

Knight KP1 Utility Rifle is a good one for the money or you can go t/c for more money.

The utility rifle allows you many options.....The Knight wins out if I had to pick of your choices,but a T/C is one of the best singles out there.I would choose .223 or 7.62x39 depending on what I was shooting and how far because of ammo prices. The .223 is a great varmint round for long distances were the 7.62x39 is a bigger game round at closer range under 200yds.

Randell, instead of buying another gun and surplus ammo I suggest getting reloading equipment and make the best shooting affordable cartridges for your current rifles. I know getting a new rifle is great,but getting one just to shoot cheap ammo?

If you do get a single shot the Knight system is a much better set up than the Rossi. I just got through reading an article praising the Knight in ONTARGET magazine. I actually have a NEF/H&R Handi-Rifle in 243 and a T/C Encore in 223 (heavy barrel) that are great guns. The 243 is perfect for my son and the 223 is rock solid,as you should expect from T/C. I think the NEF is better than the Rossi too.

So, the other suggestions about bolt actions with plugs, or the Remington TargetMaster is a great rifle, are all good. However, since you are specifically looking at a single shot, you do have a couple of other options: New England Firearms Sportster - a budget break action single shot. As simple as it gets, good quality because there isn't much to the gun from a complexity standpoint, and accurate. Polymer stock and stainless for durability. Well under $200. A step up from there is: Thompson Contender G2 - also a break action single shot. Beautiful rifles in the wood stock, and again, basic accurate and while more expensive than the New England still not unreasonable at under $600. The nice feature of the Thompson - and what made the Contender series famous, is changing calibers is as easy as changing barrels. So you want .17 HMR for more reach? $200 and order the barrel. Want to move into something else, again, just order the barrel. A nice way for it to grow with you. Thinkingblade

I would agree with Falconry2. In the long run you will be in better shape if you reload good ammunition than if you shoot the cheap stuff. If you want a good single shot rifle, go ahead and get one. However, I have tried the cheap ammo like what you've listed (wolf and brown bear specifically) and it isn't worth the trouble. I would strongly recommend that you avoid ANY ammunition that uses a steel case, regardless if it's varnished or copper plated or whatever. As i've found out, steel cased ammunition pounds the crap out of the chamber in your gun. Also, the cheaper ammunition like the Wolf or any of the Bears uses cheaper components. That means less reliable primers, much filthier burning powders, and cheaper bullets. This means you will have to clean your gun much more often, the ammunition will misfire much more often, and the accuracy will be much worse. All this can be avoided by reloading your own ammunition, and you will probably save even more money that way in the long run than by buying the cheap ammo. On top of that, I have discovered that I actually enjoy taking the time to reload. I like loading small batches of different loads and taking them to the range to see what performs better in my guns.

If you want to get a single shot rifle, go for it. I like them because when I'm hunting it prevents me from taking shots I'm not sure of, because the animals won't be there when I'm ready to shoot again. It forces me to use more skill. There are many great single shot guns, but I would suggest looking at a Thompson Center Encore or Pro Hunter (basically the same thing). In addition to being a little better built than many of the less expensive ones (so it will last longer and be a little more accurate), you can get tons of different caliber barrels for it.

I have not doubt whatsoever that you will be happier if you avoid the cheap ammo, wether you buy a single shot gun, start reloading, or neither. I still have both the brown bear and the wolf ammo boxes, two in 7'.62 x 39 and three in 7.62 x 54R (for my Mosin-Nagant M1891/30) that I would happily give away because I was so unimpressed with it.

I hope this helps!

I own rifles chambered in all 3 of those cartridges.....

Take a look at the 7.62X39MM for target shooting and varmints.... This cartridge gets a bad rap for accuracy because of the common rifles its chambered in - AK, SKS and Ruger Mini 30 rifles....

I have a CZ model 527 chambered in 7.62X39MM and can attest it is an accurate cartridge if used within its ballistics limitations.....

7.62X39MM ballistics chart....

http://www.shootingtimes.com/ballistics/762_39mm_r...

http://www.gunblast.com/Paco_CZ527.htm

Its basically a decent cartridge to about 200 yards... I keep most of my target practice with this cartridge to no more than 150 yards.....

The ammunition is so inexpensive I don't know why more single shot and bolt action rifles aren't chambered in it....

Look here at the ammo prices.....

http://www.jgsales.com/index.php/ammo-for-rifles/7...

This stuff is an absolute bargain compared to .308 and .223....

Now of course I know .223 has a flatter trajectory and the .308 has way more reach with down range power... So if long range shooting is what you want then surely consider those.... But for more closer range target and varmint shooting the 7.62x39MM cant be beat.....

As for caliber, I would prefer the .308 over the 223 and 762, hands down.

Don't overlook the Harrington Richardson/New England Firearms single shot rifles! You'd be doing yourself an injustice!

http://www.hr1871.com/default.asp

I've been shooting H&R guns for many many years, none has ever gave even the slightest problem, of any kind, and has took all the abuse that I could possible give it and still hold my head up high, and it never missed a lick!

Check them out, I think they have a model called the "Pardner", or "Handi-Rifle", you may like them.

I've got 2 h&r handi-rifles in my collection chambered in .223 .243 and 45-70. They're pretty much my favorite rifles out of a 30 gun collection.

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