Is there room in R&P for a little jazz and soul?

I don't see any reason to draw lines between good music. If I see aquestion asked in the R&P catagory which I can bet answer with a jazz answer, that's the answer I give. Who cares what catagory its considered?

I can tell you something about Roy Hargrove.

I saw him a couple years ago at the Jazz Gallery in NYC. He shared the stage with a young trumpet player. Hargrove was very gracious to this kid. He gave him equal time and was completely supportive of the kid. The show was great, and I left with a real good feeling about Hargrove.

Being that were talking about not having borders in music. I am posting a video of Don Byron. Byron has been involved in LOTS of styles of music. He has made avant garde, funk, classical, and probably other stuff I haven't heard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32YI74NWdOM&NR=1

I got to say, I'm really surprised to read Shotgun Willie's answer. I doubt the real Willie would say anything like that. In fact, Willie and Wynton Marsalis recently recorded an album together.

Oh yeah, I wonder if this Shotgun Willie likes...

Van Morrison. Van's classic album Astral Weeks whole band was mad of jazz musicians. Just one chapter in the changes of that albums bassist Richard Davis.

How about Wilco? Nels Cline is that bands bassist. His albums are difficult to even catagorize.

EDIT:

Shotgun Willie,

I didn't mention the Willie/Wynton album, Astral Weaks album, and Wilco to find out if you like them.

I was pointing out that the musicians on those albums are not concerned with creating borders and catagories in music.

This is some Jazz Funk enjoy,

Chuck Mangione

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWSevt_i51w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17mbAZFQKFU

Crusaders

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R25JX-IUx0&feature...

Stanley Clark & George Duke

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wbT96J1ek

Gil Scot-Heron

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi4iBDPojKI

I saw the word jazz so I figured I should chime in, jazz snob that I am.

took a look at the clips. not bad, but not my sort of thing, either.

BQs:

first, for those who might be interested, be sure to check out Weather Report's "Sweetnighter" album, especially "Boogie Woogie Waltz," "125th Street Congress," and "Will." full-length audio below courtesy of last.fm.

second, Shotgun Willie: did you get your hands on the Arcana disc I mentioned a few days ago? if so, what do you think of it? also, your mentioning Cannonball (and my listening to Zawinul, I guess) prompts me to add three more treats below to the musical conversation going on here.

third, I'll shut up now. have a good night all.

Matilda, thanks so much. I was feeling bad thinking I hurt your feelings over a fun question. I really hope you enjoy Roger & The Gypsies. The song was a huge radio and dance club hit locally. Every band had to learn it or they couldn't get jobs.

Soul died as soon as bands like New Edition started that whiny-voice style of singing. The remaining masters carried on but there really hasn't been a popular soul singer since Teddy Pendergrast. The rest are nasal poseurs who all sound the same, including the women (exclude Macy Gray). Rusty Shaw is a great young soul singer but we'll never hear him on the radio until he learns to stop singing and start whining.

The jazz section is a bunch of wimpy smooth jazz lovers who think it's real jazz.

Same for the Blues section: except for a handful of blues lovers who know the music all the way back to its earliest recordings, you'd think Stevie Ray Vaughan invented the genre if you visit.

Early New Orleans funk from The Meters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HVFZtfTKJQ

More New Orleans funk from Roger & The Gypsies: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWNkjayeIU4

Rock from Tehran in English:

Hypernova with "Fairytales".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_sxsKBVJDE

Hope you enjoy the funk tracks. They were only played on New Orleans radio stations when I was growing up in the Crescent City. I used to watch The Meters for free in Jackson Square on Saturdays.

Very Sweet

vérifier cette Ritenour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUu0DNPlv5Y

Well, my philosophy on the matter is that if Freddie Mercury or Jimmy Page is not involved, there's really no place for it.

I'll give a listen.

Yeah, I like that. I'll check out an album.

Dan M, have you ever visited the jazz or soul sections? There's no community. Nobody knows what they're talking about.

BQ:

Some cool stuff, mostly sort of similar:

Where Was You At - War

This Here (Disshere) - Cannonball Adderley

http://www.last.fm/music/Cannonball+Adderley/In+Sa...

Funky Miracle - The Meters

Star - Primal Scream

Green Onions - Booker T and the MGs

http://www.last.fm/music/Booker%2BT.%2B%2526%2BThe...

Gone Tomorrow - Arcana

Cantaloupe Island - Herbie Hancock

http://www.last.fm/music/Herbie+Hancock/The+Egg/Ca...

I'll try to find Youtube links for the others. Wait, no I can't. I'll have to do that sometime later.

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Yeah, I did, S K (rare for me, in that I usually have an album on my "to listen" list for weeks before I finally get around to it.) Anyway, I really enjoyed it. It's hard to compare to anything else I've ever heard. It's aggressive and ambient at the same time, which shouldn't make sense, but sounds really cool.

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Yeah, I heard about the Willie Nelson/Wynton Marsalis album. Sounds okay.

Anyway, I chose the name because at the time, I was really into the album, and it's a cool persona.

Anyway, I like Van Morrison and Wilco, though I don't know too much by either.

Not bad Matilda, not bad.

Here though, is the kind of Jazz I like.

Jean Luc Ponty (My Video, btw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj2tPzSY3MU

Jeff Beck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSSTnI9qS0w

Return To Forever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSksWyHsYw8

Cool!!

How 'bout some blues & funk, too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FBnQvd_xzs

As far as I'm concerned, there's room for everything. If there's room for questions about Man Egg, there's room for some Jazz.

Listening, listening, listening...

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Good stuff. I recognize the name Hargrove from somewhere, possibly here. I especially liked the last one. Very laid back. Thanks for sharing!

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