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Are people who say Jesus is God in the flesh the anti Christ ?
2 John 7
7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
It say Jesus came in the flesh not God.
9-11
9 Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. 10 If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him. 11 Anyone who welcomes him shares in his wicked work.
If they teach Jesus is God in the flesh should you even talk to these evil people ?
Lynn M
It's not a slick twist .
It's called logic. No twists just common sense.
gertystorrud
You stop taking it out of context & read you biblke with your eyes open .
gertystorrud
You stop taking it out of context & read you bible with your eyes open .
18 Answers
- ALv 41 decade agoFavorite Answer
"The apostle John is the only Bible writer to use the word “antichrist.” In two of the letters bearing his name, the word appears five times, in both the singular and the plural. The verses in which the word appears are listed in the box [below]. From these verses, we can see that the antichrist is a liar and a deceiver, bent on destroying a person’s relationship with Christ and with God. Accordingly, the apostle urged his fellow Christians: “Beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.”—1 John 4:1.
The Bible also mentions it in these verses: “Young children, it is the last hour [evidently the end of the apostolic period], and, just as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists.”—1 John 2:18.
“Who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one that denies the Father and the Son.”—1 John 2:22.
“Every inspired expression that does not confess Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s inspired expression which you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.”—1 John 4:3.
(Also, the one you cited, 2 John 7.)
Jesus too warned against deceivers, or false prophets, saying: “[They] come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits [or, works] you will recognize them.” (Matthew 7:15, 16) Was Jesus also warning his followers against the figurative antichrist? How we can identify this deceiver?
Jesus warned his followers that the world in general would hate them. He said: “People will deliver you up to tribulation and will kill you, and you will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name. And many false prophets will arise and mislead many.”—Matthew 24:9, 11.
Because Jesus’ disciples are persecuted “on account of [Jesus’] name,” the persecutors are clearly antichrist, against Christ. The “false prophets,” some of whom were once Christians, are also in that category. (2 John 7) These “many antichrists,” wrote John, “went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us.”—1 John 2:18, 19.
The words of both Jesus and John plainly indicate that the antichrist is not a single person but is made up of many individual antichrists. Moreover, because they are false prophets, one of their main objectives is religious deception.
Paul warned Timothy by writing, "... shun empty speeches that violate what is holy; for they will advance to more and more ungodliness, and their word will spread like gangrene. Hy·me·nae´us and Phi·le´tus are of that number. These very [men] have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already occurred; and they are subverting the faith of some." - 2 Tim 2:16-18.
Apparently, Hymenaeus and Philetus taught that the resurrection was a symbolic one and that Christians had already been resurrected in a spiritual sense. Granted, becoming a genuine disciple of Jesus brings one to life from God’s standpoint, which Paul himself plainly stated. (Ephesians 2:1-5) Nevertheless, the teaching of Hymenaeus and Philetus disregarded Jesus’ promise of a literal resurrection of the dead under God’s Kingdom rule.—John 5:28, 29.
Ideas of a purely symbolic resurrection were later developed by a group called Gnostics. Believing that knowledge (gno´sis in Greek) could be derived in a mystical way, Gnostics combined apostate Christianity with Greek philosophy and Oriental mysticism. For instance, they held that all physical matter is evil, and for that reason, Jesus did not come in the flesh but only seemed to have a human body—a belief called Docetism. As we have seen, this is precisely what the apostle John had warned against.—1 John 4:2, 3; 2 John 7.
Another fabrication, concocted centuries later, is the doctrine of the so-called holy Trinity, which makes the assertion that Jesus is both Almighty God and the Son of God. In his book The Church of the First Three Centuries, Dr. Alvan Lamson states that the doctrine of the Trinity “had its origin in a source entirely foreign from that of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures; that it grew up, and was ingrafted on Christianity, through the hands of the Platonizing Fathers.” Who were these “Platonizing Fathers”? They were apostate clerics who were infatuated with the teachings of pagan Greek philosopher Plato.
The engrafting of the Trinity was a masterstroke of the antichrist, for this doctrine shrouded God in mystery and blurred his relationship with the Son. (John 14:28; 15:10; Colossians 1:15) Just think, how can one “draw close to God,” as encouraged by the Scriptures, if God is a mystery?—James 4:8.
Adding to the confusion, many Bible translators have taken God’s name, Jehovah, out of their translations, even though it occurs over 7,000 times in the original text! Clearly, attempting to turn the Almighty into not just a mystery but a nameless mystery is an act of gross disrespect for our Creator and his inspired Word. (Revelation 22:18, 19) Furthermore, replacing the divine name with such titles as Lord and God is a violation of Jesus’ model prayer, which says in part: “Thy name be hallowed [or, made holy].”—Matthew 6:9, The New English Bible."
For more information on the antichrist, the link below has it.
Source(s): God's Word the Holy Bible and http://www.watchtower.org/e/20061201/article_02.ht... - ?Lv 51 decade ago
II Cor. 5:19 says that "God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself".
Colossians 2:9 says that "in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead BODILY".
Jesus said in John 14:10 that "the Father that dwelleth IN ME, he doeth the works".
So let me ask you, were these people "anti-Christ"? Was the Apostol Thomas "anti-Christ" when he looked at Jesus and called him "my Lord and my God"? (John 20:28) Was Paul "anti-Christ" when he stated in Acts 20:28 that God shed his own blood for the church?
Your question appears to have been asked to make a point rather than an honest inquiry for information. Jesus DID come in the flesh---and the flesh was a man born of Mary, the son of God. But Jesus was FAR more than just a man--he was "Immanuel", God with us.
- KevinLv 51 decade ago
A lot of times the Bible will make statements like these to show the closeness of two. Just like the union of a man and woman make them as one, not one physically rather one in unison. The problem with this is that trinitarians use the parable illustrations as verbatim in defending the man made doctrine of the trinity. In reality God is showing us the closeness Jesus and him share while Satan uses the same scriptures to draw people away from God and put the focus on anything but the real God that created the heavens and earth, the Almighty Jehovah God.
And poster Sandra, here is an outlook you may find very interesting regarding the New World Translation of the Bible. Please read, I know you will enjoy it! http://web.archive.org/web/20071218010255/http://m...
- touch me notLv 61 decade ago
2 John 4
I rejoice very much because I have found certain ones of your children walking in the truth, just as we received commandment from the Father.
The apostle John is here encouraging Christians to carry on "walking in the truth" for many were not content with the clear and simple teachings of the Christ. They wanted things which would elevate them. Teachings which tickle the ears of many and put them behind their back as their own followers.
Your understanding of verse is obviously pretty accurate. The verse is quite simple to be misunderstood by anyone who has clear mind and understands simple English. The verse does not say "God came in the flesh" but "Jesus Christ came in the flesh". To say the former would change completely the message of this simple scripture. How could it be viewed by God as "walking in the truth"? [John 4.23]
I cannot agree more with your conclusion. Clear thinking and full of sense. Please carry on "walking in the truth".
And before i forget...thanks a million...
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
You may want to look into the original words of the bible in the section you have detailed here. It states God but not the Son, each bible is interpreted for the beliefs of that religion. I follow Jesus because I feel his teachings is from God, but the original wording of the bible does not say what you quoted. It is a good idea for everyone to look into the original wording of the bible, and see the differences for themselves. It is astounding to say the least.
- 1 decade ago
It's interesting how trinitarians will use John 1:1 to prove their man made doctrine.
I also like to use this chapter to reason how God Almighty and His Son, Jesus are clearly seperate beings.
In the same chapter, John 1 at verse 14 it says:
"So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth."
So God became flesh and resided among us?
Who is this only-begotten son and who is this father?
Go along to verse 18 in the same chapter:
"No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him. '
No man has seen God at any time. But you say God became flesh and resided with us? We know that Jesus did His ministry on earth, but here it clearly says no man has seen God. How do trinitarians explain that?
Clearly, they have to be seperate beings.
We know that Jesus died, How can Almighty God die?
Habakkuk 1:12 says:
"Are you not from long ago, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die."
God does not die. So, Almighty God is not Jesus because Jesus died.
Also, Ecclesiastes 9:5 explains the state of the dead so Jesus could not have resurrected himself - someone else did it. God did it.
Source(s): any Bible. Obviously your Bible may have taken Gods' personal name out of it, but you get the idea. - ErnieLv 71 decade ago
Jesus was God in the Spirit while He was here, but the Son of man in the flesh.
- ?Lv 51 decade ago
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. -- Hebrews 1:8
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. -- 1 Timothy 3:16
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. -- Acts 20:28
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. -- 1 John 3:16
(1) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (14) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.-- John 1:1; 14
Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. -- Colossians 1:13-17
- ♥ SJC ♥Lv 71 decade ago
When a person is baptized in the name of Jesus it opens their understanding of scripture.