Is an ethnic jew becoming a christian so wrong?

Were you a Jew like the Jewish scriptures describe or an atheist before you converted? It sounds like you were an atheist. If you were an atheist, then you didn't believe the Torah described historical events. There is nothing more damaging to Judaism than to have Jews agreeing with that pagans that:

1. One's lineage to a fictitious character is meaningless.

2. As there is no God, it is impossible for Him to give Moses or anyone else a Law Jew are to live by.

3. As there is no God, there are no covenants.

4. There are no divine claims to Israel.

Do you now know God personally like the Jews described in the Jewish scriptures or did you simply switch communities? If you simply switched communities, then you aren't really a believer. To be a believer, you have to know God personally and follow Him.

The greatest gift that God can give us is Himself. You need Him to guide you through these waters as you should not be the same person you were before your profession. Unlike Rabbinic Judaism, God is to make a difference in your life.

***is it so terrible to be a jewish christian?***

The answer is "yes." If the Spirit of God still speaks, then the conclusion that the age of the prophets has ended is false. It means sincerity or trying to fulfill the law isn't enough. What is required is to recognize God's voice and follow it.

You don't have to say anything more than say you are filled with the Spirit of God than for the conviction to set in.

Hope this helps

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Obviously, Rabbis are no where in the Tanakh. Therefore, that are additions If the Rabbis are no where in the Tanakh, then there is no scriptural justification for them to replace the prophets as many profess they do.

If the age of the prophets ended, then why are the Jews looking for God to speak and act again looking for a prophet, Elijah, to come again each Passover? The age can't have ended if there is one prophet yet to come.

Likewise, if Elijah can't hear the voice of the Spirit of God when he returns, how will he be known? Elijah was known as a prophet because the scriptures record his personal conversations with the living God of Israel.

How could Elijah come back unable to hear God's voice and that be better than personally hearing the view of the Creator of the Universe. Seriously, what does a Rabbi know that HaShem doesn't that one would choose to listen to a Rabbi over their Creator? This is as absurd as the notion that the God of Israel no longer wants to be the God of Israel. Who comes up with these ideas?

The true prophets of God looked forward to the day when Joel's prophesy was fulfilled because Israel was known for killing the prophets God sent. (Neh 9) Why would Israelites want to kill the prophets sent by God unless they didn't want to do what God asked?

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Have Mama give you where in the Torah it says, "Jewish LAW says that one born to a Jewish mother is a Jew". She won't because she can't back up her words with what God gave Moses. She can only parrot what a rabbi who never stood in the presents of HaShem believes is true.

Ask her if all Jews agree where the oral Torah came from. Obviously, the Reform Jews who don't believe the Torah records actual historical events can't believe it was given by God like the Orthodox believe.

And shouldn't an oral Torah actually be oral instead of a second written Torah?

If it was OK to write it down 1000 years after perfectly passing from prophet to prophet, besides there not being anymore prophets to pass it to...what changed? If it was OK to write it down 1000 years afterwards, then it was OK to write it down when Moses brought it off the mountain.

Or what made the Roman revolts different? Israel had already been conquered by Rome for as long as anyone living could remember. And Israel had been conquered many times before and God was able to protect the oral Torah (if it existed). What could man do that God wasn't able to do given the previous 1000 years of faithfulness demonstrated by God?

As no one writes down everything that happens in a historical event, the scriptures ARE the prophet's interpretation of the event. Everything else written by the Rabbis about the scriptures is an interpretation of the undisputed authority of the oral Torah interpretation. What creditable organization would allow someone living 1000 or more years after the event to interpret the only eye witness account who also was the one who perfectly received and passed the oral Torah to the next generation?

Lastly, why is there a 1000 year gap between the verses that are said to prove that God gave Moses the oral Torah (and many Jews don't believe this either) and the writing of it down? The logistics of finding a healthy person that will live for the next 10 to 25 years is miraculous given that receiving the oral Torah perfectly would take a great deal of time given the volume of material needing to be covered. So if one fell ill or was attacked by robbers or killed in battle, that would have ended the idea of an oral Torah.

But that never happened dispite of being conquered many times. The fact that the prophet was not killed is miraculous and one the prophet writing the Tanakh would recognize as miraculous. Given the other details that are included in the scriptures, the question of why the prophet wouldn't never mention something that was an utmost concern to them is more than can be swept under the carpet

The prophets that write the Tanakh were also the undisputed authorities of the oral Torah.

Agnostic/Atheist. I do attend a christian church, they are very caring people that practice the love of neighbor that Jesus taught. They're my family and accept that I do not do dogma. I have started being raised catholic, was once baptized Pentecostal, went through Buddhism and Native American spirituality. So I've pretty well run the gamut. Even for most of my christian walk, I could never believe that a "loving" god would do the "one lifetime, pass/fail" system for heaven or hell. Reincarnation made a whole lot more sense to me. Realized that reincarnation does not require any supernatural entity, nor does moral/ethical behavior. And the Universe does not require a supernatural creator, either. Don't know for sure what was before the Big Bang, but there is a lot we do not understand about the Universe as yet. But we do know that it runs quite nicely without any supernatural entity that cannot be proven in the first place. I do believe there is a "higher power", but it is a totally natural one. Blessings on your Journey!

First, as a Christian, I would like to say, "Welcome to the family!" I truly can't imagine how this feels for you or your mom. I was raised basically atheist, and no one really cared when I converted, as long as I didn't "bother them with it." I guess I would advise you to say very little, just continue to love your mom and pray for her. Let her watch her life, and let your life begin to erase those stereotypes about Christians. Most Christians today are appalled at what has been done in history in the name of Christianity. Please jsut love her. Blessings be upon you my brother.

no, there's nothing wrong with it if that's truly your path. but, beware the 'messianic jews' who will prey upon you, and try to convince you that you can still call yourself jewish and accept their messiah. the two religions are not compatible, you must chose one or the other. the choice will always remain yours; just be honest about it.

ds m has admitted that he is an evangelical baptist on this very forum, so take what he says with a grain of salt, he isn't and never was jewish, and never went thru a jewish conversion.

Mazel tov on finding Messiah Y'shua & I wish you all the best on your

journey of faith. Shalom , success & blessings as you travel the road

with Messiah Y'shua. Do not stop being Jewish & keep following Y'shua & His Commandments which is Torah straight from YHWH Eloah.

Whatever the Jewish Rabbi Y'shua did U should do. If He did the

Sabbath so should U. If He celebrated the Feasts & Festivals so should U. If He honored His parents so should U. Honoring your

parents by the way does not mean you blindly follow what they say, as

an adult you have to make your own decisions, but keep honoring them

and loving them no matter how tough it gets.

No, it is not terrible. If it is your free choice and satisfies you, God bless. Just understand, what this does is make you apostate in the eyes of the Jewish community. There is no specific Jewish ethnicity. If you're mother was a Sephardic, but secular, Jew from Turkey or an Ethopian Jew, black and secular, from Israel (because the Ethopian Jewish community had to be airlifted out of Ethiopia a couple of decades ago), there would still be the same feelings. Judaism is, indeed, more than a religion, but it isn't an ethnicity, it is a family you can be born or adopted into. And if someone decides to divorce themselves from the family, it's a sad and frightening feeling for those who remain in the family.

Edit: PS for most of North America, it's still the Sabbath until Sundown on Saturday. So if you want answers from religious and not secular Jews, you'll have to wait a few hours.

I am so right there with you Brother. I too was born into a non-practicing Jewish family. Friends of mine led me to Jesus. Believe me! your family will remain just that. Your family. The worst condemnation you will get is from the neo-Nazi JPA'ers here on YA. Telling you that you are an apostate and that your family could and should disown you.

Your mama will eventually understand and you know she still loves you. As you said, she did not raise you up in Judaism, so she will remember and realize that eventually.

"is it so terrible to be a Jewish Christian? "

Absolutely not! God Bless you.

You are Jewish.

I am a Yeshiva student, studying to be a Rabbi.

As a Jew, you have certain responsibilities and certain obligations, the most important of which is to follow the Torah. Xtians follow Jesus but in the Jewish faith, Jesus clearly is not the Messiah and by worshipping him, you are committing idolotry.

Ethnically you are not Jewish. Truly there is no such thing. I am a Jew. Everyone in my family is Jewish and we have been since anyone can remember but ethnically I am Lithuanian, Polish, etc.

It is not wrong to say that about your mother but your neshama (Jewish soul) is your responsibility now, not your mothers. She may have not known how to raise you that way etc. Perhaps you should sit down and talk to her about it. It might help both of you.

If you don't know about the Jewish faith, why not learn about it. How can you choose Xtianity if you don't know about the faith of your fathers.

Other people are right, the ultimate choice is your own.

You might try listening to Rabbi Tovia Singer who debates Xtians and "Messianic Jews" (which are really just Xtians pretending to be Jews).

The decision you make is a serious decision and should not be taken lightly.

Tough situation.

First of all, there is no such thing as a Jewish Christian. What you are talking about is a Christian of Jewish HERITAGE; it is NOT the same thing. A Jew, by definition, cannot worship any god but the god of Abraham. A Jew CAN choose to be non-religious, Agnostic, or even an Atheist as long as they do not actively worship some other god.

Jesus was a man. The god of Abraham could not and would not become a man.

Jews consider themselves the children of god. Christian claim that only Jesus claimed to be the son of god.

Jews have a taboo against saying god's name; even saying or typing the word "god" bothers them. Christian talk about god and call him by name constantly.

The Jewish Messiah is supposed to be a mortal man, and a leader. He was never supposed to be divine (or at least not more so than anyone else). Jesus was never the Jewish Messiah; you could call him the Roman Messiah, though.

Go ahead a be a Christian, if that makes you happy, but there is no such thing as a Jewish Christian.

I too am from an interfaith family (my mom is Jewish and my dad is a Christian). And I struggled for years about trying to find out where I belonged. I was predominately raised Christian as a child (with few Jewish influences---we did observe Passover and Hanukkah but that was about it).

I always felt (personally) like I didn't belong in a church because when they did sermon(s) about the Crucifixion of Christ they always had to really emphasize that the Jews wanted blood; and that they were hard hearted and blind towards the "truth". I could never feel at home in a church because of this. I felt like I was the enemy among them, not someone who belonged. And it didn't matter how much I tried to be like them----I could never fit in because of who I was: a Jew.

When I became an adult I did a bit of soul searching and studying about Christianity and Judaism (I Church hopped and Synagogue hopped) and really found that Judaism was the right path for me personally. They made me feel like I belonged; I didn't feel like the enemy any more. And I got to learn more about G-d, tradition and a bit more about myself in the process. For me the return to Judaism was one of the best things I had ever done----It gave me a sense of peace, to know that I belonged somewhere and that there were other people who believed as I did.

As for your mother being concerned about you being Christian---she's afraid that she will lose you spiritually. Because when a Jewish person converts to another religion they cease being Jewish. And if you know anything about the history of our people you'll know that Christians oppressed, harassed, exiled and murdered Jews periodically for centuries. And now a day's Jews still get harassed by religious fundamentalists who want to convert them (in an attempt to not just "save their souls" but to eliminate the faith that they view as an antagonist towards their own religion).

If you feel more comfortable being Christian then that's your personal choice. I know that you converted to Christianity but I personally believe that you should take a second look at Judaism (if you haven't); it has a lot to offer.

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/index.sh%E2%80%A6

http://www.jewfaq.org/toc.htm

http://judaism.about.com/library/weekly/%E2%80%A6

But whatever path you fully decide on I hope that you'll find what you are looking for and that you'll be content with your choice.

It doesn't sound like your mom is worried about your spirituality, but more afraid that she's being rejected by you. I study with JW's, and you should hear the stuff I get from family members. A member of our congregation was raised as a Jew, but he no longer lived at home. Actually, I think his parents had both passed away. It's very hard to take any road that doesn't coincide with our families' ways of doing things. Reassure your mom that you still love her, but you have come to realize that Judaism isn't God's way any more.